Tough Glove

Flylow Gear bakes their waterproof winter gloves—yes, you read that right, bakes—in Colorado. Each leather glove is heated three times to cure the double hand-coated, waterproofing sealer. The result is extra durable gloves that are still flexible, making them popular with skiers. This design is practical beyond the slopes, too. Anyone who spends time in the cold outdoors can benefit from a pair. PrimaLoft filler insulates a rugged leather exterior, which is far stronger than typical synthetic materials. They mimic work gloves but with much more warmth and dexterity. Founders Greg Steen and Dan Abrams launched Flylow in 2005 to make functional outdoor apparel that stood up to tough winter conditions, and have since become a trusted creator of cold-weather gear. And, yes, they are still baking their gloves in the oven.

Flylow Gear

Triple Baked Waterproof Gloves

Tough Glove

Flylow Gear bakes their waterproof winter gloves—yes, you read that right, bakes—in Colorado. Each leather glove is heated three times to cure the double hand-coated, waterproofing sealer. The result is extra durable gloves that are still flexible, making them popular with skiers. This design is practical beyond the slopes, too. Anyone who spends time in the cold outdoors can benefit from a pair. PrimaLoft filler insulates a rugged leather exterior, which is far stronger than typical synthetic materials. They mimic work gloves but with much more warmth and dexterity. Founders Greg Steen and Dan Abrams launched Flylow in 2005 to make functional outdoor apparel that stood up to tough winter conditions, and have since become a trusted creator of cold-weather gear. And, yes, they are still baking their gloves in the oven.
Independent Maker

Grommet Launch Conversation

Grommet Launch Conversation

  • Micah
    Micah

    Hello everyone! I'm proud to introduce Flylow Gear to The Grommet. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have!

  • laura
    laura
    12/18/2015 9:50 AM

    what's the difference between the blaster and the ridge?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:08 AM

    @laura

    laura the blaster is got skin (softer leather) and has more insulatoin than the pigskin ridge.

  • Lori
    Lori
    12/18/2015 11:28 AM

    @Micah - thank you. I was wondering the same thing. :-)

  • Carole
    Carole
    12/18/2015 9:52 AM

    these look great. Will there be an option for black ones in the near future?

    Also, I have tried many big name, expensive ski gloves just to keep my fingers warm while out shoveling or whatever and my fingers always get freezing cold. What makes these different, other than the baking?

    Thank you for your time

    Carole

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:10 AM

    @Carole No black options coming soon. The insulation level of the gloves makes a difference for warmth as does the construction and materials. these gloves dont wet out easily so you stay warmer. The Blaster and Master will be warmer than the Ridge.

  • Cynthia
    Cynthia
    12/18/2015 12:41 PM

    @Micah Michah, you refer to the Blaster and Master. Where is the Master?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:10 PM

    @Cynthia sorry Cynthis the Master is a mitten that we make out of goat skin. not available on the grommet.

  • David
    David
    12/18/2015 9:57 AM

    The written description claims these are "waterproof". But then the spec chart says "wind and water resistant". What's the discrepancy?

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 10:10 AM

    @David

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:12 AM

    @David these gloves have been triple snowseal (beeswax) baked. On a typical day of skiing etc they will stay waterproof. take them swimming, in a monsoon in thailand, or for a long bubble bath and they will get wet.

    Our gloves pass the typical industry "waterproof" tests

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:27 PM

    @Micah Thanks Micah I wondered too.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 10:17 AM

    Hey Micah, I don't know why you are sideways, but I'm working on it. Hang on to that Xmas tree until I get things straightened out!

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:35 AM

    @Mike maybe i look better sideways anyway.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 10:36 AM

    Haha well you're right side up now!

  • Edward
    Edward
    12/18/2015 10:24 AM

    How are these as far as grip? I've used many types of smooth skinned gloves and they have a tendency of being slippery when holding heavy objects. Thank You, Ed.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:31 AM

    @Edward I am afraid answering that feels like it might be subjective. The baking of the gloves makes them more tacky than untreated gloves. The pig skin on the Ridge glove is less slick than the goat skin on the Blaster. I have held everything from my kids to ski poles to beers to shovels and never had a slippage issue. the dexterity of our gloves for the warmth is quite good.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:38 AM

    I am the Sales Manager for Flylow. We and our customers love our gloves. 40,000 pairs a year is a strong testament. you will love to work, ski and play in these. they give you instant street cred as a "local' on the ski hill or in town.

  • Charlie
    Charlie
    12/18/2015 1:18 PM

    @Micah. Are you saying that China has cleaner and better quality than the USA ?

    Charlie

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:40 PM

    I think he is saying the opportunities for a smooth manufacturing process are more prevalent overseas, Charlie. And he is right. It is often very difficult for young companies to manufacture here because the chances to do so are limited and when those chances are available, they can be extremely expensive. Check out my answer to Marci below. I included a link to a blog post I wrote that details these difficulties and what you can do to help bring back American manufacturing.

  • ALLEN
    ALLEN
    12/18/2015 11:36 PM

    @Mike

    There are still several glove manufacturers left in the US that can manufacture the kind of gloves you are marketing. several in the Northwest and some in the BC of Canada.

    There are many ways to completely waterproof leather why have you chosen to use bees wax instead of a completely waterproof leather?

    Al

  • Janice
    Janice
    12/19/2015 9:04 AM

    @ALLEN any chance I get, I buy American. Even more so, if I get a chance to buy American and from a local, or small business, that's where you'll find me.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:24 AM

    Janice, we are glad to hear it. That is supporting the Maker Movement to the very core!

    Allen, thanks for the comment! While there may be manufacturers, they may not be in the price range of Flylow. Many American manufacturers are a little too steep for young Makers. And the use of beeswax was for flexibility on the gloves. That made more sense for their users than completely waterproofing them.

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 10:55 AM

    I was going to order 2 pairs...but when I saw made in China & baked in Colorado, well I decided not to!! Why not made & baked in Colorado??

  • Deborah
    Deborah
    12/18/2015 11:04 AM

    @Marci I am also curious as to what the exact materials are used for the glove. This puts more emphasis on possible chemicals used in Chinese manufacturing only to have them baked in later.

    Is is possible to receive an answer on both decision to manufacture in China verses US? As well as a reply to specific materials used that will permeate our skin. These appear to be incredible gloves so information would be appreciated

  • Dustin
    Dustin
    12/18/2015 11:30 AM

    I'd like to see these questions addressed also. I would love a quality set of made in USA leather gloves but have a really hard time buying made in China ones especially at a higher price point compared to other options in the market.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:32 AM

    @Deborah @Marci

    thanks for bringing this up. working in China is actually a very good place to get things done. With their long history of garment production and state of the art facilities China is a very solid end-to-end solution. Our glove factory sources material, manufactures and ships out of one facility ensuring us visibility to the entire process. The materials in this glove are very simple. 100% Pig skin upper, poly fill insulation, and a cotton and spandex cuff. We then treat them with beeswax for waterproofing. The reason we choose to manufacture in China is primarily the quality work, prevalence of clean factories and their ability to be a totally end to end solution.

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:29 PM

    @Micah

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:31 PM

    @Phyllis

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 1:06 PM

    @Phyllis....... So the materials are simple but having them made in the good o' USA is not?? Cleanliness & end result, I'm sorry, but I find that rather offensive. Thank you, but no thanks!!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:34 PM

    Hi Marci, correct. Making products in the USA is not easy at all. I'm sure Micah and the rest of the Flylow team would love to make them domestically, but opportunities are slim and prices are very high, especially for a young company.

    It's a challenge many of our Makers face. We appreciate you sticking to your shopping values, encourage you to shop our Made in the USA section here, and urge you to check out this blog post I wrote that details the difficulties of manufacturing in America and what you can do to assist in bringing it back to the States here.

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 2:10 PM

    @Mike Thanks Mike...I'll check these out, but I try to buy USA goods & sometimes it does limit me ... Especially when it's something I would really like to get!!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 2:24 PM

    I understand, Marci! Thanks for the comment!

  • Jacob
    Jacob
    12/18/2015 3:01 PM

    @Mike

    The problem is Mike is everyone keeps buying things from China, Nothing will be made in the US anymore. I will pay more for something made in the USA. That way I know that it is good Quality and not full of toxins. Grommet should promote USA made things. That would be a good start.

    Also $100 for a pair of gloves? There is nothing in them that is warmer then other outdoor gloves. Come On

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:26 PM

    I'm glad to hear you will pay more, Jacob, that is a fantastic start. This is something that can't happen overnight. It will take years. We do promote USA things. In fact, we have an entire section dedicated to them because we agree with you that it would be a great start.

    The price of the gloves is subjective to everyone. It's less about how warm they are and more about how durable and flexible they are. They are a triple threat that is triple baked.

  • Geoff
    Geoff
    12/18/2015 5:35 PM

    @Mike Come on, can't we be honest here? The problem is not paying more or claiming to be willing ( I don't buy it though, these are already $100 how much more would you pay?). The problem is the government trade agreements, lack of protection of American manufacturing, and our governments over intrusion into the private sector, not to mention increased energy cost due to idealistic reaction without care of ramification. Start voting to protect your country instead of voting for everything that reducing industry in this great country. So instead, you'll just pretend you can have it all and condescendingly judge an American company trying to make a buck and employ Americans the best they can. Please reflect. Merry Christmas!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 9:53 PM

    Hi Geoff, it is obvious that this is a problem that runs deep. We try and do our part at The Grommet by supporting the Maker Movement which is aimed at increasing opportunities for companies to manufacture domestically. It is a long process that will take a lot of work, but supporting Makers here is one sure way to propel the cause.

  • Terri
    Terri
    12/18/2015 11:02 AM

    I am Southeast Alabama. We have some freeze but not much. Would the Ridge glove be warm enough for some outdoor yard work, etc?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:11 AM

    @Terri Yes they would be more than warm enough for anything good old Alabama can throw at them. roll tide or war eagle?

  • Terri
    Terri
    12/18/2015 11:59 AM

    @Micah ROLL TIDE!

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:44 PM

    @Terri good luck in the playoff. My WVU mountaineers didn't do much this year.

  • ellen
    ellen
    12/18/2015 11:05 AM

    Are these gloves sizes for men and women?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:15 AM

    @ellen these are unisex. glove size chart here at the bottom. measure from the heel of your hand to the tip of your middle finger. You can check out a sizing guide by clicking "buy" underneath the video.

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 11:09 AM

    Skiing is one thing. Would they stand up to light work? As in, on a hobby farm?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:16 AM

    @Nancy the ridge gloves in particular will stand up to any work you could find.

  • ken
    ken
    12/18/2015 11:21 AM

    Micah-

    congrats on these products, sounds awesome. i wear some leathers while selling Xmas trees here in Boston and they tend to get soaked. i understand these items are waterproof, but will they still get wet/heavy and require drying time or does the beeswax remove that challenge?

    thanks in advance-

    ken

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:40 AM

    @ken if you are in a DRIVING rain storm all day these might get wet/heavy. the beeswax does an incredible job of keeping them dry in all other conditions. check out this quick "article" from our friends at Outside Magazine.

    I am confident these will be your new favorite glove. you can also buy a can of beeswax and retreat them as needed.

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 11:41 AM

    Do you have temperature ratings for the different versions?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:05 PM

    @Nancy we do not have temperature ratings but based on years of data collected from the field the ridge glove is generally great for all day use down to 20 degrees F. The Blaster glove is good down to negative territory.

  • Kate
    Kate
    12/18/2015 12:14 PM

    Hi Micah. I am wondering about upkeep. Do these gloves need to be retreated from season to season? Does the water resistance degrade over time? Thanks Kate

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:24 PM

    @Kate depending on use they can be retreated if necessary. I usually retreat mine after about 100 ski days (3 years). i just rub in snoseal and put the gloves near the fire place. i would not recommend baking these in your oven, it will stink the oven up for a while. some people will apply beezwax frequently, some never will. if the gloves are getting wet to your hand it is time to reapply.

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    12/18/2015 12:26 PM

    Could you wear these gloves for use with the BBQ grill?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:41 PM

    @Brenda sure you could and we do. but if you are only barbecuing in the summer a thinner/cheaper work glove might be better, these will be pretty warm in the summer. also not sure how good they taste, but with the right sauce...

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 12:43 PM

    I do a lot of work, and I have gone through several pairs of leather gloves cutting and hauling wood, working with animals, building, planting and pruning trees. Will these gloves last more than just a few weeks under this level of daily activity. I have gone through 4-5 pairs of $20 leather work gloves in a season before, I am looking for something better than what is available at any farm store. What say ye?

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 12:48 PM

    @Chris and are your gloves guaranteed to stay solid? I buy and use high-end tools because they are guaranteed... they cost more on the front end, but they are much cheaper in the long run... what are your guarantees?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:00 PM

    @Chris Ye say try a pair. Get the ridge gloves. Ye think they are better than anything out there. keep in mind these are insulated so might not be the best summer gloves for your needs. my thoughts on all things leather work gloves:

    1. deerskin: the most supple and dexterous, not the most resilient/tough. freezes easily if wet/cold

    2. cowskin: pretty good balance of toughness and dexterity. freezes easily if wet/cold

    3. pigskin: the toughest and also does not freeze easily, keeps it's shape better

    4. goatskin: supple/soft fairly durable

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 1:02 PM

    @Micah I have mostly been using cow and bison hide for gloves... I will give yours a shot...

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:09 PM

    @Chris we have a solid reputation and back our products. read the text in the link below. https://flylowgear.com/warrantyrepairs/

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 12:46 PM

    Hello The Website does not recognize when the Blaster Glove is being added to my cart. I try to add a pair and it takes me to a screen that says my shopping cart is empty. There is no number I can find to call, so am starting here... Can you help me get this fixed please? Nancy

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:05 PM

    @Nancy here is an email I found to email the grommet. i don't work for the grommet so it's the best i can do for you. https://www.thegrommet.com/customer-service/contact

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 1:27 PM

    @Micah They are saying they are out of stock. I can not select any size to add to my cart. Can I order these outside of the Grommet?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:30 PM

    Hi Nancy, yes, unfortunately, those flew off the shelves. They will be available again in January. You can connect with our Customer Experience Team through the link Micah provided and they can connect you to the other vendors.

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:23 PM

    On the order form, it says to measure from the wrist to the tip of the middle finger. However, you say to measure from the palm of the hand to the tip of the middle finger. Which is more accurate? I have very small hands and want to ensure these won't be too big if I order them. Thank you!

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:24 PM

    @Carolyn Oops - you said heel of hand, not palm. My bad. However, still almost an inch difference on my hand, so it will make a difference. Thanks again.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:52 PM

    @Carolyn sorry. follow the guide on the site. not my incorrect advice.

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:34 PM

    To The Grommet Team: I couldn't comment on this product from an IOS device. When I clicked on the "Add a Comment" button, nothing happened, even if I logged in to my account. When I went to my laptop, everything went smoothly. Is this just a glitch or are comments from mobile devices not allowed. Just wondering for the future. Thanks in advance for your help.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:37 PM

    Hi Carolyn, thanks for letting us know! You have stumbled upon the comment board's kryptonite. It isn't always the case, but iOS mobile devices can be finicky at times with the comment board. We appreciate you bringing it to our attention and we will continue to look at what we can do to make the experience as smooth as a laptop.

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 2:41 PM

    Good Morning Micah,

    Your reply to Carole said " these gloves don't get wet out easily" yet your description of your gloves says "Triple Baked Waterproof Gloves" with that description you give the gloves should not get wet at all because there are " waterproof" not water resistant. Please clarify what your gloves are and second what is the warranty of your gloves and replacement policy should they fail and is it a lifetime warranty either replacement of gloves or refund. Thank you for addressing these questions.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 3:03 PM

    @Pete these gloves conform to industry standard waterproof ratings. That is NOT to say they are waterproof. As in you will never get wet no matter what. Human skin and pvc plastic are the only things I have found to be totally waterproof to wear. Everything else had a breaking point and pvc plastic makes you sweat like a pig. For warranty info see above link I posted to chris. Or google Flylow warranty. Sorry I am on my phone and can't send you the link from here.

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 7:14 PM

    @Micah Good Afternoon and Thank you for your reply. Again I refer to your description of your product and call them "waterproof" when in fact they are in the beginning highly "water resistant" not "waterproof" and that water resistance degrades over time and use which being a natural animal hide is normal but you should also disclose that future applications of snow seal or other water sealer needs to be done. The same description can be said in descripind a watch if you take a water resistant watch for a swim it probably won't survive but a divers watch is designed to be completely submerged. I would caution your use of the term waterproof because it can open you up to unreasonable expectations by customers as to the performance of your gloves and you don't want unhappy customers bringing you down with bad reviews when you are trying to build your business. To me it is better to heed on the conservative side of performance on your product and have customers rave about how they outperform all other gloves they have bought than to end up with grumbling customers complaining the gloves were not "waterproof " which is a very big claim and big shoes to fill and stand behind. This is not in any way a slam of your product just an observation on big claims that typically an animal hide isn't able to do.

    Have a great day

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

    May 2016 be a fantastic year for you and your growing business.

    P.S. I would keep looking for a manufacturer in the U.S.A. People want home grown products

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 7:22 PM

    @Micah One last question what is the IPX rating for your gloves? Look forward to your replies.

    Thank you

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:46 AM

    Hi Pete, I guess the compromise is that they are essentially waterproof for their main uses. Like Micah said, unless you're bringing them into a bubble bath with you, they will hold up. And it would be pretty weird to bring these into a bubble bath. But you're right, the last thing they want to do is confuse customers about the functionality of the gloves.

  • Leslie
    Leslie
    12/18/2015 2:59 PM

    Pretty please, make an XXL size! It is hard to find gloves to fit my husband's hands. Remember that scene in the OJ Simpson trial where the gloves didn't fit OJ's hands. Well that didn't necessarily mean he was innocent; it could have just meant that it is difficult to find gloves that fit a very large hand, so men end up wearing gloves that are too small.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:44 PM

    Hi Leslie, if the gloves don't fit, you must wait a bit. As soon as Flylow gets an XXL size we'll have them on site lickety split.

  • James
    James
    12/18/2015 3:43 PM

    Too bad that I see manufactured in China. High price for imported gloves. I'm sure with all the cows in Co. you could manufacture them in the states for that kind of money. Almost bought some until I saw imported. Sorry but for that kind of money I'm sure I can find made in USA.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:49 PM

    Hi James, thanks for the comment. We appreciate you sticking to your shopping values here and we don't want you breaking the bank. I'm not sure if the solution is that simple, but I am sure that Micah and co. will look to bring manufacturing domestically if the right opportunity presents itself.

  • Red
    Red
    12/18/2015 5:24 PM

    i hope you guys have gloves for very small hands, most ladys xs are just to big ,, and they dont keep the hands warm in the cold! if your wondering my ring size is 4 across the palm is 3inches { yes im an adult} so will you make them? or do you have that size?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 5:28 PM

    @Red the smallest we make is XS. this measures 7" from your wrist to the tip of your middle finger.

  • Red
    Red
    12/18/2015 7:05 PM

    @ think on it please i cant be the only elf out there in need of good gloves.

  • Michael
    Michael
    12/19/2015 1:22 AM

    Sounds like these gloves are way over priced. They look nice but that's it.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:53 AM

    Hi Michael, price is going to be subjective and of course, we don't want you breaking the bank on these, but it sounds like you didn't watch the video or read the story and just let the board make up your mind. Because the look, while nice, is like the fifth best quality of these gloves.

  • Janice
    Janice
    12/19/2015 9:12 AM

    How are they around fire? My husband is outside working with wood in the winter, and we heat with an outdoor wood burning furnace. So he'll be throwing wood into that and generally moving things around...like raking up the goals, moving the wood, restacking, but he will be around high heat at times during the day.

    Will these melt?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 11:26 AM

    Hi Janice, thanks for the question! As long as he isn't sticking his hand in the fire for an extended period of time, there should not be an issue.

The launch day conversation has ended. Please direct further questions about this Grommet to our Community Experience Team.

 

Flylow Gear

Triple Baked Waterproof Gloves

Tough Glove

Flylow Gear bakes their waterproof winter gloves—yes, you read that right, bakes—in Colorado. Each leather glove is heated three times to cure the double hand-coated, waterproofing sealer. The result is extra durable gloves that are still flexible, making them popular with skiers.

This design is practical beyond the slopes, too.
Anyone who spends time in the cold outdoors can benefit from a pair. PrimaLoft filler insulates a rugged leather exterior, which is far stronger than typical synthetic materials. They mimic work gloves but with much more warmth and dexterity.

Founders Greg Steen and Dan Abrams launched Flylow in 2005 to make functional outdoor apparel that stood up to tough winter conditions, and have since become a trusted creator of cold-weather gear. And, yes, they are still baking their gloves in the oven.
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Grommet Launch Conversation

  • Micah
    Micah

    Hello everyone! I'm proud to introduce Flylow Gear to The Grommet. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have!

  • laura
    laura
    12/18/2015 9:50 AM

    what's the difference between the blaster and the ridge?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:08 AM

    @laura

    laura the blaster is got skin (softer leather) and has more insulatoin than the pigskin ridge.

  • Lori
    Lori
    12/18/2015 11:28 AM

    @Micah - thank you. I was wondering the same thing. :-)

  • Carole
    Carole
    12/18/2015 9:52 AM

    these look great. Will there be an option for black ones in the near future?

    Also, I have tried many big name, expensive ski gloves just to keep my fingers warm while out shoveling or whatever and my fingers always get freezing cold. What makes these different, other than the baking?

    Thank you for your time

    Carole

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:10 AM

    @Carole No black options coming soon. The insulation level of the gloves makes a difference for warmth as does the construction and materials. these gloves dont wet out easily so you stay warmer. The Blaster and Master will be warmer than the Ridge.

  • Cynthia
    Cynthia
    12/18/2015 12:41 PM

    @Micah Michah, you refer to the Blaster and Master. Where is the Master?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:10 PM

    @Cynthia sorry Cynthis the Master is a mitten that we make out of goat skin. not available on the grommet.

  • David
    David
    12/18/2015 9:57 AM

    The written description claims these are "waterproof". But then the spec chart says "wind and water resistant". What's the discrepancy?

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 10:10 AM

    @David

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:12 AM

    @David these gloves have been triple snowseal (beeswax) baked. On a typical day of skiing etc they will stay waterproof. take them swimming, in a monsoon in thailand, or for a long bubble bath and they will get wet.

    Our gloves pass the typical industry "waterproof" tests

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:27 PM

    @Micah Thanks Micah I wondered too.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 10:17 AM

    Hey Micah, I don't know why you are sideways, but I'm working on it. Hang on to that Xmas tree until I get things straightened out!

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:35 AM

    @Mike maybe i look better sideways anyway.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 10:36 AM

    Haha well you're right side up now!

  • Edward
    Edward
    12/18/2015 10:24 AM

    How are these as far as grip? I've used many types of smooth skinned gloves and they have a tendency of being slippery when holding heavy objects. Thank You, Ed.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:31 AM

    @Edward I am afraid answering that feels like it might be subjective. The baking of the gloves makes them more tacky than untreated gloves. The pig skin on the Ridge glove is less slick than the goat skin on the Blaster. I have held everything from my kids to ski poles to beers to shovels and never had a slippage issue. the dexterity of our gloves for the warmth is quite good.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 10:38 AM

    I am the Sales Manager for Flylow. We and our customers love our gloves. 40,000 pairs a year is a strong testament. you will love to work, ski and play in these. they give you instant street cred as a "local' on the ski hill or in town.

  • Charlie
    Charlie
    12/18/2015 1:18 PM

    @Micah. Are you saying that China has cleaner and better quality than the USA ?

    Charlie

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:40 PM

    I think he is saying the opportunities for a smooth manufacturing process are more prevalent overseas, Charlie. And he is right. It is often very difficult for young companies to manufacture here because the chances to do so are limited and when those chances are available, they can be extremely expensive. Check out my answer to Marci below. I included a link to a blog post I wrote that details these difficulties and what you can do to help bring back American manufacturing.

  • ALLEN
    ALLEN
    12/18/2015 11:36 PM

    @Mike

    There are still several glove manufacturers left in the US that can manufacture the kind of gloves you are marketing. several in the Northwest and some in the BC of Canada.

    There are many ways to completely waterproof leather why have you chosen to use bees wax instead of a completely waterproof leather?

    Al

  • Janice
    Janice
    12/19/2015 9:04 AM

    @ALLEN any chance I get, I buy American. Even more so, if I get a chance to buy American and from a local, or small business, that's where you'll find me.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:24 AM

    Janice, we are glad to hear it. That is supporting the Maker Movement to the very core!

    Allen, thanks for the comment! While there may be manufacturers, they may not be in the price range of Flylow. Many American manufacturers are a little too steep for young Makers. And the use of beeswax was for flexibility on the gloves. That made more sense for their users than completely waterproofing them.

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 10:55 AM

    I was going to order 2 pairs...but when I saw made in China & baked in Colorado, well I decided not to!! Why not made & baked in Colorado??

  • Deborah
    Deborah
    12/18/2015 11:04 AM

    @Marci I am also curious as to what the exact materials are used for the glove. This puts more emphasis on possible chemicals used in Chinese manufacturing only to have them baked in later.

    Is is possible to receive an answer on both decision to manufacture in China verses US? As well as a reply to specific materials used that will permeate our skin. These appear to be incredible gloves so information would be appreciated

  • Dustin
    Dustin
    12/18/2015 11:30 AM

    I'd like to see these questions addressed also. I would love a quality set of made in USA leather gloves but have a really hard time buying made in China ones especially at a higher price point compared to other options in the market.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:32 AM

    @Deborah @Marci

    thanks for bringing this up. working in China is actually a very good place to get things done. With their long history of garment production and state of the art facilities China is a very solid end-to-end solution. Our glove factory sources material, manufactures and ships out of one facility ensuring us visibility to the entire process. The materials in this glove are very simple. 100% Pig skin upper, poly fill insulation, and a cotton and spandex cuff. We then treat them with beeswax for waterproofing. The reason we choose to manufacture in China is primarily the quality work, prevalence of clean factories and their ability to be a totally end to end solution.

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:29 PM

    @Micah

  • Phyllis
    Phyllis
    12/18/2015 12:31 PM

    @Phyllis

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 1:06 PM

    @Phyllis....... So the materials are simple but having them made in the good o' USA is not?? Cleanliness & end result, I'm sorry, but I find that rather offensive. Thank you, but no thanks!!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:34 PM

    Hi Marci, correct. Making products in the USA is not easy at all. I'm sure Micah and the rest of the Flylow team would love to make them domestically, but opportunities are slim and prices are very high, especially for a young company.

    It's a challenge many of our Makers face. We appreciate you sticking to your shopping values, encourage you to shop our Made in the USA section here, and urge you to check out this blog post I wrote that details the difficulties of manufacturing in America and what you can do to assist in bringing it back to the States here.

  • Marci
    Marci
    12/18/2015 2:10 PM

    @Mike Thanks Mike...I'll check these out, but I try to buy USA goods & sometimes it does limit me ... Especially when it's something I would really like to get!!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 2:24 PM

    I understand, Marci! Thanks for the comment!

  • Jacob
    Jacob
    12/18/2015 3:01 PM

    @Mike

    The problem is Mike is everyone keeps buying things from China, Nothing will be made in the US anymore. I will pay more for something made in the USA. That way I know that it is good Quality and not full of toxins. Grommet should promote USA made things. That would be a good start.

    Also $100 for a pair of gloves? There is nothing in them that is warmer then other outdoor gloves. Come On

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:26 PM

    I'm glad to hear you will pay more, Jacob, that is a fantastic start. This is something that can't happen overnight. It will take years. We do promote USA things. In fact, we have an entire section dedicated to them because we agree with you that it would be a great start.

    The price of the gloves is subjective to everyone. It's less about how warm they are and more about how durable and flexible they are. They are a triple threat that is triple baked.

  • Geoff
    Geoff
    12/18/2015 5:35 PM

    @Mike Come on, can't we be honest here? The problem is not paying more or claiming to be willing ( I don't buy it though, these are already $100 how much more would you pay?). The problem is the government trade agreements, lack of protection of American manufacturing, and our governments over intrusion into the private sector, not to mention increased energy cost due to idealistic reaction without care of ramification. Start voting to protect your country instead of voting for everything that reducing industry in this great country. So instead, you'll just pretend you can have it all and condescendingly judge an American company trying to make a buck and employ Americans the best they can. Please reflect. Merry Christmas!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 9:53 PM

    Hi Geoff, it is obvious that this is a problem that runs deep. We try and do our part at The Grommet by supporting the Maker Movement which is aimed at increasing opportunities for companies to manufacture domestically. It is a long process that will take a lot of work, but supporting Makers here is one sure way to propel the cause.

  • Terri
    Terri
    12/18/2015 11:02 AM

    I am Southeast Alabama. We have some freeze but not much. Would the Ridge glove be warm enough for some outdoor yard work, etc?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:11 AM

    @Terri Yes they would be more than warm enough for anything good old Alabama can throw at them. roll tide or war eagle?

  • Terri
    Terri
    12/18/2015 11:59 AM

    @Micah ROLL TIDE!

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:44 PM

    @Terri good luck in the playoff. My WVU mountaineers didn't do much this year.

  • ellen
    ellen
    12/18/2015 11:05 AM

    Are these gloves sizes for men and women?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:15 AM

    @ellen these are unisex. glove size chart here at the bottom. measure from the heel of your hand to the tip of your middle finger. You can check out a sizing guide by clicking "buy" underneath the video.

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 11:09 AM

    Skiing is one thing. Would they stand up to light work? As in, on a hobby farm?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:16 AM

    @Nancy the ridge gloves in particular will stand up to any work you could find.

  • ken
    ken
    12/18/2015 11:21 AM

    Micah-

    congrats on these products, sounds awesome. i wear some leathers while selling Xmas trees here in Boston and they tend to get soaked. i understand these items are waterproof, but will they still get wet/heavy and require drying time or does the beeswax remove that challenge?

    thanks in advance-

    ken

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 11:40 AM

    @ken if you are in a DRIVING rain storm all day these might get wet/heavy. the beeswax does an incredible job of keeping them dry in all other conditions. check out this quick "article" from our friends at Outside Magazine.

    I am confident these will be your new favorite glove. you can also buy a can of beeswax and retreat them as needed.

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 11:41 AM

    Do you have temperature ratings for the different versions?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:05 PM

    @Nancy we do not have temperature ratings but based on years of data collected from the field the ridge glove is generally great for all day use down to 20 degrees F. The Blaster glove is good down to negative territory.

  • Kate
    Kate
    12/18/2015 12:14 PM

    Hi Micah. I am wondering about upkeep. Do these gloves need to be retreated from season to season? Does the water resistance degrade over time? Thanks Kate

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:24 PM

    @Kate depending on use they can be retreated if necessary. I usually retreat mine after about 100 ski days (3 years). i just rub in snoseal and put the gloves near the fire place. i would not recommend baking these in your oven, it will stink the oven up for a while. some people will apply beezwax frequently, some never will. if the gloves are getting wet to your hand it is time to reapply.

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    12/18/2015 12:26 PM

    Could you wear these gloves for use with the BBQ grill?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 12:41 PM

    @Brenda sure you could and we do. but if you are only barbecuing in the summer a thinner/cheaper work glove might be better, these will be pretty warm in the summer. also not sure how good they taste, but with the right sauce...

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 12:43 PM

    I do a lot of work, and I have gone through several pairs of leather gloves cutting and hauling wood, working with animals, building, planting and pruning trees. Will these gloves last more than just a few weeks under this level of daily activity. I have gone through 4-5 pairs of $20 leather work gloves in a season before, I am looking for something better than what is available at any farm store. What say ye?

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 12:48 PM

    @Chris and are your gloves guaranteed to stay solid? I buy and use high-end tools because they are guaranteed... they cost more on the front end, but they are much cheaper in the long run... what are your guarantees?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:00 PM

    @Chris Ye say try a pair. Get the ridge gloves. Ye think they are better than anything out there. keep in mind these are insulated so might not be the best summer gloves for your needs. my thoughts on all things leather work gloves:

    1. deerskin: the most supple and dexterous, not the most resilient/tough. freezes easily if wet/cold

    2. cowskin: pretty good balance of toughness and dexterity. freezes easily if wet/cold

    3. pigskin: the toughest and also does not freeze easily, keeps it's shape better

    4. goatskin: supple/soft fairly durable

  • Chris
    Chris
    12/18/2015 1:02 PM

    @Micah I have mostly been using cow and bison hide for gloves... I will give yours a shot...

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:09 PM

    @Chris we have a solid reputation and back our products. read the text in the link below. https://flylowgear.com/warrantyrepairs/

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 12:46 PM

    Hello The Website does not recognize when the Blaster Glove is being added to my cart. I try to add a pair and it takes me to a screen that says my shopping cart is empty. There is no number I can find to call, so am starting here... Can you help me get this fixed please? Nancy

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:05 PM

    @Nancy here is an email I found to email the grommet. i don't work for the grommet so it's the best i can do for you. https://www.thegrommet.com/customer-service/contact

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    12/18/2015 1:27 PM

    @Micah They are saying they are out of stock. I can not select any size to add to my cart. Can I order these outside of the Grommet?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:30 PM

    Hi Nancy, yes, unfortunately, those flew off the shelves. They will be available again in January. You can connect with our Customer Experience Team through the link Micah provided and they can connect you to the other vendors.

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:23 PM

    On the order form, it says to measure from the wrist to the tip of the middle finger. However, you say to measure from the palm of the hand to the tip of the middle finger. Which is more accurate? I have very small hands and want to ensure these won't be too big if I order them. Thank you!

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:24 PM

    @Carolyn Oops - you said heel of hand, not palm. My bad. However, still almost an inch difference on my hand, so it will make a difference. Thanks again.

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 1:52 PM

    @Carolyn sorry. follow the guide on the site. not my incorrect advice.

  • Carolyn
    Carolyn
    12/18/2015 1:34 PM

    To The Grommet Team: I couldn't comment on this product from an IOS device. When I clicked on the "Add a Comment" button, nothing happened, even if I logged in to my account. When I went to my laptop, everything went smoothly. Is this just a glitch or are comments from mobile devices not allowed. Just wondering for the future. Thanks in advance for your help.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 1:37 PM

    Hi Carolyn, thanks for letting us know! You have stumbled upon the comment board's kryptonite. It isn't always the case, but iOS mobile devices can be finicky at times with the comment board. We appreciate you bringing it to our attention and we will continue to look at what we can do to make the experience as smooth as a laptop.

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 2:41 PM

    Good Morning Micah,

    Your reply to Carole said " these gloves don't get wet out easily" yet your description of your gloves says "Triple Baked Waterproof Gloves" with that description you give the gloves should not get wet at all because there are " waterproof" not water resistant. Please clarify what your gloves are and second what is the warranty of your gloves and replacement policy should they fail and is it a lifetime warranty either replacement of gloves or refund. Thank you for addressing these questions.

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 3:03 PM

    @Pete these gloves conform to industry standard waterproof ratings. That is NOT to say they are waterproof. As in you will never get wet no matter what. Human skin and pvc plastic are the only things I have found to be totally waterproof to wear. Everything else had a breaking point and pvc plastic makes you sweat like a pig. For warranty info see above link I posted to chris. Or google Flylow warranty. Sorry I am on my phone and can't send you the link from here.

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 7:14 PM

    @Micah Good Afternoon and Thank you for your reply. Again I refer to your description of your product and call them "waterproof" when in fact they are in the beginning highly "water resistant" not "waterproof" and that water resistance degrades over time and use which being a natural animal hide is normal but you should also disclose that future applications of snow seal or other water sealer needs to be done. The same description can be said in descripind a watch if you take a water resistant watch for a swim it probably won't survive but a divers watch is designed to be completely submerged. I would caution your use of the term waterproof because it can open you up to unreasonable expectations by customers as to the performance of your gloves and you don't want unhappy customers bringing you down with bad reviews when you are trying to build your business. To me it is better to heed on the conservative side of performance on your product and have customers rave about how they outperform all other gloves they have bought than to end up with grumbling customers complaining the gloves were not "waterproof " which is a very big claim and big shoes to fill and stand behind. This is not in any way a slam of your product just an observation on big claims that typically an animal hide isn't able to do.

    Have a great day

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

    May 2016 be a fantastic year for you and your growing business.

    P.S. I would keep looking for a manufacturer in the U.S.A. People want home grown products

  • Pete
    Pete
    12/18/2015 7:22 PM

    @Micah One last question what is the IPX rating for your gloves? Look forward to your replies.

    Thank you

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:46 AM

    Hi Pete, I guess the compromise is that they are essentially waterproof for their main uses. Like Micah said, unless you're bringing them into a bubble bath with you, they will hold up. And it would be pretty weird to bring these into a bubble bath. But you're right, the last thing they want to do is confuse customers about the functionality of the gloves.

  • Leslie
    Leslie
    12/18/2015 2:59 PM

    Pretty please, make an XXL size! It is hard to find gloves to fit my husband's hands. Remember that scene in the OJ Simpson trial where the gloves didn't fit OJ's hands. Well that didn't necessarily mean he was innocent; it could have just meant that it is difficult to find gloves that fit a very large hand, so men end up wearing gloves that are too small.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:44 PM

    Hi Leslie, if the gloves don't fit, you must wait a bit. As soon as Flylow gets an XXL size we'll have them on site lickety split.

  • James
    James
    12/18/2015 3:43 PM

    Too bad that I see manufactured in China. High price for imported gloves. I'm sure with all the cows in Co. you could manufacture them in the states for that kind of money. Almost bought some until I saw imported. Sorry but for that kind of money I'm sure I can find made in USA.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/18/2015 3:49 PM

    Hi James, thanks for the comment. We appreciate you sticking to your shopping values here and we don't want you breaking the bank. I'm not sure if the solution is that simple, but I am sure that Micah and co. will look to bring manufacturing domestically if the right opportunity presents itself.

  • Red
    Red
    12/18/2015 5:24 PM

    i hope you guys have gloves for very small hands, most ladys xs are just to big ,, and they dont keep the hands warm in the cold! if your wondering my ring size is 4 across the palm is 3inches { yes im an adult} so will you make them? or do you have that size?

  • Micah
    Micah – Special Guest
    12/18/2015 5:28 PM

    @Red the smallest we make is XS. this measures 7" from your wrist to the tip of your middle finger.

  • Red
    Red
    12/18/2015 7:05 PM

    @ think on it please i cant be the only elf out there in need of good gloves.

  • Michael
    Michael
    12/19/2015 1:22 AM

    Sounds like these gloves are way over priced. They look nice but that's it.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 10:53 AM

    Hi Michael, price is going to be subjective and of course, we don't want you breaking the bank on these, but it sounds like you didn't watch the video or read the story and just let the board make up your mind. Because the look, while nice, is like the fifth best quality of these gloves.

  • Janice
    Janice
    12/19/2015 9:12 AM

    How are they around fire? My husband is outside working with wood in the winter, and we heat with an outdoor wood burning furnace. So he'll be throwing wood into that and generally moving things around...like raking up the goals, moving the wood, restacking, but he will be around high heat at times during the day.

    Will these melt?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    12/21/2015 11:26 AM

    Hi Janice, thanks for the question! As long as he isn't sticking his hand in the fire for an extended period of time, there should not be an issue.

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