Savior
Vacuum Sealed Storage Container
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Savior
Vacuum Sealed Storage Container

Food Saver

Grommet Launch Conversation
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Hi Grommet Community! We're excited to share with you our non-electric vacuum sealer containers. What will you be storing in your containers?
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Everyone is trying to find ways to extend the life and freshness of their food, why do see Savior as the well, savior, of that effort?
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We looked at all the different types of storage containers and none really extended the life of the food and products to more than a couple of days. We created a way to vacuum out the air in our container that will greatly extend the life of all foods, fruits, herbs, coffee, teas and cheeses. We found that coffee enthusiasts love how the Savior keeps their coffee as fresh as the day it was roasted or ground. We designed the most powerful non-electrical vacuum container. By simply turning the dial on the top of the Savior you will be able to vacuum up to 30% of the air inside the container. This is a huge number in the food industry. To underscore this statement…we were just awarded a US patent for the Savior!
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What was the toughest part about bringing this to life?
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It’s always hard to create new products with new technology. We created gears that drive a small pump that is in the lid of the Savior. Although it may sound pretty easy to use gears that drive the pump to take out the air. We had to find the right ratio of gears that will give the Savior the maximum vacuum per twist. After much R&D we were able to develop the Savior that is easy to use and extremely functional. Add to that a great design of the container where it is easy to clean and stackable. This is how the Savior works. By turning the dial on top of the Savior you are turning gears and they drive a small pump. Every turn of the dial drives the pump 35 times. You will know when the air is removed by looking at seal/release valve. When the valve is sucked in, there is a strong vacuum. To release the vacuum to access your food, just depress the release valve and that vents the air. It’s that simple!
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Why should everyone have Savior in his or her kitchen?
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The Savior works not only in the kitchen, you can take it anywhere to extend the life of foods. Take it camping, hiking, fishing, anywhere you might want to keep your products safe, dry and isolated from the surroundings. The Savior works perfectly for the kitchen because of it user friendly. You don't really want to find a pump or seal a bag every time you need to store something. And since our product does not use batteries or electricity you can safely store in the refrigerator. Not only does the Savior extend the life of the product, it also seals whatever you store inside it without and smells. Since it creates a vacuum, there are no odors coming from the container when sealed. Another huge advantage of owning a Savior is that it is the perfect product to marinate with. Just add in your marinate to your food and turn the dial on your Savior. The vacuum opens up the
food so your marinate will penetrate deeper and faster to create a delicious rich flavor. 1 hour of marinating in the Savior is compared to 6 hours of marinating in most other methods. A huge savings of time and your foods will have a richer more enjoyable flavor! Plus it comes with a 2 Year Warranty! -
@Peter im curious about the seal; if it keeps odors from entering, does it also keep the scent of what's inside from escaping? When camping, bears as well as many other wildlife, have an incredible sense of smell. Has this been tested?
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@Dinah Yes it been tested. Once it seal no air exchange would happened until you open it up again.
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@Peter One more note on odors. We did a test with sauerkraut and kimchi. 3 weeks in the Savior at room temperature. No odors emitting! Thank goodness.
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What sets Savior apart from many of the other vacuum-sealed containers?
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We made the Savior to be different from others product. No other product has the power of the Savior. Your products will still go bad in just a few days whit what is on the market now. Look at the waste we all create. The average family in the US, wastes over $2,000.00 of food per year! We are not just another vacuum container. The Savior greatly extends the life of your foods up to 8 times longer than our competition. It is the next generation of food storage. That is why we received our patent in just over a year. It has a beautiful look, it’s easy to operate, stackable, made with BPSA free plastic and you can use it anywhere.
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@Peter
I'm sorry. But I can get three of these that r similar but do the same thing for the price you have for one -
@Susan
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@Peter Hi Susan, can you tell me what brand that is? We have done extensive research and there is no product on the market that comes close to what the Savior does. We would be very interested. Thanks, Pete
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@Peter
As with many of the products that Grommet offers,the price is way above what one would expect to pay. Susan is correct, there are many other vacuum storage containers at a much better price. -
That last sentence is correct, Alastair, but none will offer the advantages of Savior. It's in a league of its own, hence the price.
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@Mike
They may seem better to you but, to those of us who are considering buying them, they are an unknown. There are no independent reviews to substantiate ANY of your claims. -
Then by all means, wait for the reviews to start rolling in on site.
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I would love to get some of these but would like to know the demensions of them. They are expensive and I would be disappointed it if they did not fit in my pantry.
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Hi Jerri, you can find the dimensions by clicking on the photos beneath the video. You can also see the capacity on the photo before clicking through.
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Some foods, like coffee, are sensitive to light and would be better preserved in an opaque container. Have you considered making containers that aren't transparent?
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@Eric Good question Eric. We did testing with coffee roasters and that was brought up. For now, it is the clear. we/they recommend storing in a cabinet. Maybe next year.
Another issue was brought up with the roasters...when they are freshly roasted the beans emit CO2. That's why bags have vents. With the Savior, if the pressure inside exceeds the pressure outside it will self vent. If you see the vacuum button not sunk in, it means the pressure was greater and self released. Just turn the dial a few times and it will create a vacuum. The roasters tell us their this is the Best storage device for their beans. -
Would this work for sliced bread?
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@arthur Hi Arthur, yes and it would keep it as fresh as the day you brought if home from the store or made it. No mold due to the strong vacuum.
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What is the material used for the base, lid and mechanical parts?
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@L we use BPA free plastic. This is not made in China. Designed and made in Taiwan. A HUGE difference in quality control.
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Hello! Your product looks very similar to the Oxo vacuum seal containers and those are much, much cheaper. What is it about your product that justifies the over $55 price bump per container? Or am I misreading and you get a set of 1.5 containers for $69.95?
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@Jennifer OXO takes out about 1% of the air. The Savior removes 30%. In food storage that is Huge. We received a patent for this product in 12 months. That proves this is not just another storage device. If you recall the pump? You connect a small bicycle style pump to the top of the container and pumped is 20-30 times to remove air? Well that only took out about 4%. This is a totally new way to store just about anything.
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@Jennifer The might look similar, but the Ox containers do not create a vacuum as far as I know. The button on the Oxo lid merely expands the lid's seal and makes them mostly air tight... but again with no vacuum. The containers here create a vacuum that greatly extends the freshness of almost any food.
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@darell You are correct Darell. I have owned a lot of the OXO containers and like them very much--I appreciate their tight seal, but they do not provide a vacuum style air removal. So whatever air is in the OXO container is going to stay in there. I suspect a lot of people commenting today are confused on this point. It kind of FEELS like a vacuum seal when you engage the OXO lid.
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I would buy these in a minute if they werent so expensive. Would make great gifts. Sorry, just cant afford them.
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@Jane Hi Jane, you get what you pay for. The technology that went into the Savior was in the millions. It has a 2 year warranty and will pay for itself in no time. If you like to cook, try marinating with the Savior. Due to the vacuum, it will penetrate deeper into the food and save you hours of waiting. 1 Hour in the savior is compared to 6 hours of regular marinating.
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Hi Peter - can we assume that the lids for the two sizes are identical? And thus the pump is identical? So if the same amount of product is stored in the two different containers, then a better vacuum will be created in the smaller container? Also... is the pump action limited to three twists? Or can more pumping be achieved by continuing to twist the knob? (it would be pretty slick to have a vacuum gage on these!)
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@darell Yes they are. When you compare 1.5 qt to 2.5 qt sizes, there is really not much of a difference in the vacuum pressure. You will always have product inside the unit and the volume is very similar. On sealing the device/vacuuming, you turn the dial on the top of the unit until you feel it getting harder to turn. You will also see the vacuum/release valve suck in to show you have a strong seal. You can turn it to the right or left, doesn't matter it you are a righty or a lefty.
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This is a great idea. I was really excited about it, until I saw the price tag. WAY WAY out of my price range. I understand that it is revolutionary, and the high quality standards. But there's NO WAY I can afford one or two of these, much less the 6-8 I would like to purchase to keep lots of different staples fresh. Good luck to you.
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We get it, Bethany, and as I said below, with enough support on site they can bring the price to a level in the wheelhouse of more people. And not to sound like a broken record, but the cost now will result in big time savings down the road.
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I think the product is genius! And I would love to have several of them in my kitchen. I dont think I would be happy with just one. But I will have to jump on the price complaint wagon and say that they are way too expensive right now. People have to learn the game of production. Usually, new products are more expensive when they first hit the market--that is to make up for a lot of overhead that went into production as well as to make a huge profit off the top. But everything has a depreciation time period. Do like I do and wait for a while and let the price drop or a good discount is offered. I dont pay full price for hardly anything. Now for you rich folk, go ahead and splurge and let us penny pinchers know how it work. I'll be back when these puppies go on sale (smile).
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That is a diligent approach, Debra, thanks for the kind words.
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Honestly, they are way too expensive. I thought maybe it was for a set for 4, but for 1. - sorry.
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Hi Christine, we understand it won't be in the budget of everyone and we don't want you breaking the bank. The innovation behind Savior in the amount of air removed from the container and the thousands of dollars you can save from food waste in the long run will certainly create value for anyone who purchases. So while it may seem like a lot now, your bank account will be thanking you long-term.
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@Mike
Grommet needs to put more thought into how they price new products. I would have thought that getting the product into the consumers hands would be the main objective, then, if the product is any good, and sales take off, increase the price to be in line with comparative products. -
Hi Alastair, we do not price products. We sell them at the price Makers set that strikes the balance of accessible to a good portion of the market wanting to purchase them and a level that will allow the Maker to continue to grow. Our number one objective is helping Makers succeed. Gouging prices to compete with other sites does not accomplish that objective. As has been mentioned on here somewhere, being an early adopter of an innovative product from a new, small-scale Maker is going to come at a price. That price may not be worth it everyone and that's ok, many see the value and the rest eventually will.
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Good Morning. I am interested in this product, but would like to know if it is BPA free. I bake and would love to have this in my kitchen. Thank you!
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It sure is, Angela! Your kitchen will thank you.
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@Angela Yes it is BPA free :)
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BRING THE COST DOWN AND YOU VE GOT MANY NEW CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Ron We hear you. New technology is not cheap. This unit will pay for itself in no time. Store your high end meats, cheeses, herbs, truffles, coffee, teas, Take it with you outdoors, marinate with it.
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Hi Ron, with enough support on site they can hopefully get to that point. In the meantime, you can know thousands of dollars can be saved in preventing food waste which will more than make up for the present cost.
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@Ron yes it is. New technology is expensive. The Savior will pay for itself in no time. This wasn't designed to keep a bologna sandwich fresh for a few days.
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@Peter @Ron Or...be one of the new customers and they'll bring the cost down. The early adopters always pay a higher price, but they get the benefit of a longer time enjoying the product. You can wait for the price to come down, but if the product doesn't survive because of a dearth of early adopters, then you'll have missed out on having an awesome product.
Are these expensive? Yes, in general terms, but not in absolute terms, when you factor in the cost of wasted food that will be saved. (For example, just two weeks ago I had to throw away an entire plastic "sealed" container of brown sugar because it turned into a solid.)
Will I buy a set of 4 of these? Probably not, at least not at the outset. But will I buy at least one of these, and try it out? For sure. And if it's all it's made out to be, I'll be back buying more.
So Ron, if you don't become an early adopter but you do see these at a much lower price in the future...you'll have me (and other EAs) to thank! :-) -
Well said, Andrew. Thanks for the comment!
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@Mike
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@Philip
what Andrew said this AM in defense of your pricing is all well and good. The fact remains that, while you seem to have have a novel and effective new design, your product appears to be a relatively inexpensive set of plastic thermo-molded parts. Honestly, I don't see how you can justify having the early adopters pay such a grossly inflated price price such as you are asking, simply to accelerate recouping your start-up costs. Can you justify the exorbitant pricing or can I arrange some bridge financing for you? -
Hi Philip, its justified by having a product that sets itself miles apart from the competition. If it's a price you are not comfortable paying, we are not trying to push you. We are simply telling you the story of a game changing kitchen item.
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Not sure what the "medicinal herb" community is paying for storage options (BTW - a very off-putting marketing hook) but for normal people I could replace all my staples every 6 months for 4 years for around 70 dollars. Love the idea and the engineering elegance but should have had a better market analysis (or maybe was over-engineering that resulted in excess costs). I am an early adopter and follower of the Grommet, but 70 dollars is more than double what I think people would be inclined to pay. Good luck to you and I hope you recoup your investment before your patents are violated by your friends across the Strait...
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@James Worldwide patents are on this product. We are well prepared for any knockoff's.
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Hi James, thanks for the comment. That community is looking for an ultra effective solution for maintaining the product driving a multi-billion dollar industry, which is what Savior provides. Like I said above, we understand this won't be in the budget for everyone. The price is a reflection of the efficacy that can't be found in other food storage products. As Peter mentioned, Savior removes 30% of air from containers as opposed to 4%. You're also looking at huge savings down the line as you keep food fresher and waste to a minimum.
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So disappointed by the price. There are so many great items on the Grommet site, but most are way beyond many people's means. These are great, but would have to save up to purchase.
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And that is totally ok, Mary. What we try to do with all products on The Grommet is support the Maker by offering their products at their actual price, not a gutted version you will find on other sites. This ensures we are truly helping them grow their business.
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@Mary There are so many uses for the Savior. Not just storage. One of our videos shows marshmallows expanding. Try marinating with it. It marinates deeper into the foods due to the vacuum and expands the meats, vegetables, fish and poultry to allow the marinate to penetrate deeper for a richer flavor. Also cuts the time down dramatically to marinate.
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Can this go in the freezer to avoid freezer burn and freezer taste?
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@Amy We recommend the refrigerator for the Savior.
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Are these made in China, Brazil, Taiwan, or somewhere else? Makes a huge difference to me just as I see a large leap in quality if it is made away from China.
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@zach Made in Taiwan Zach. BPA free. Huge difference in Taiwan vs China on quality, reliability and manufacturing.
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@Peter Thank you I will be purchasing a few shortly :).
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Would this be good for lettuce in the fridge? If so, how many extra days would it store?
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@Belinda yes, lettuce will keep fresh for weeks. We did a test with bananas. One was in a bowl, another in a burp like lid container and the Savior. The banana in the bowl began to get brown spots in 3-4 days. The one in the burp-container, 5-6 days. The one in the Savior was well over 2 weeks before browning started.
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This sounds great! No loud machine to suck the air out. And the ability to seal foods while traveling is awesome. Win win, as long as it's not made in China. Sorry don't trust that market.
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@Theresa You get it Theresa! No we do not manufacture in China. Taiwan and their Quality Control is stringent and we use BPA free components.
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Yeah! Not made in China.
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How hard is it to turn the knob? Would this be a challenge to seniors? Does it get harder with each turn?
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@Belinda Also is there a risk of over tightening and breaking it?
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@Belinda not hard at all. as you turn the knob, the suction/release valve button will get sucked in, showing you have a seal. Also the knob gets harder to turn which also lets you know the seal is strong. My dad is 83 and uses it daily for his coffee and my mom uses one for marinating and storing left-overs.
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@Peter No for over tightening. The knob will get harder and harder to turn until you cannot turn it anymore. As I said for seniors...after you turn it a few times it starts to get harder to turn. You have made a super strong seal. We have a 2 year warranty on this product.
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Hi, I am wondering if the twist top will drop down so they are stackable.
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@Barbara they were designed so you can stack them on top of each other. Great question.
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Way too expensive!
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@Lisa Please offer glass containers. I won't store food in plastic. I do own EVAKs and prefer them for that reason, but they are small due to their sliding tops which in most instances remove comparable amounts of air. I hope you partner to create a twist-top vacuum in addition to their slide-top vacuum.
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@Nathan My apologies; "Reply to this Conversation" was unclear as to its scope, for me. I intended to address the maker.
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@Nathan the container you mentioned takes out 1-2% of the air. We had to use a high grade BPA plastic due to the amount of air we take out of the container. The plunger type systems use glass due to their inability to vacuum large amounts of air.
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@Peter As great as your 30% figure is, in a mostly empty container it's a wash or in the EVAK's favor, in my eyes, for contents amenable to high density. Your product would be great for bulkier items, though, were it possible to fabricate from non-toxic materials. Perhaps you can offer some kind of insert.
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Hi Nathan, I'll defer to Peter on this, but I don't believe the size of the items in Savior will impact its efficacy.
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I realize you are just getting started, but have you considered offering a "set" for a slight discount? This is a great product, you should pursue the "bear can" angle too! (maybe an inner locking mechanism that a bear couldn't overcome.)
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@Debra not sure what a Bear Can angle is. If you are referring to bear proof, then I would say that once you seal the Savior by turning the knob, the vacuum it creates makes it virtually impossible to take the lid off. If the bear can depress the release valve with its paw, I would be shocked to hear that they could do it. The release valve is recessed on the top of the container.
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Is there a volume discount? Looking for 75 to 100
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@David David that needs to be addressed by the Gommet.
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Wondering how these would work with jars of spices? Jars of spices solidify in south Florida. I've tried different options without success. I've asked others and they recommend putting them in the refrigerator. Spices like onion salt, garlic turn rock hard. Cinnamon is no problem.
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@Annette great question. We heard the same comments from all over the world. In Hawaii for example, if you leave salt out on the counter, you will have liquid salt before you know it. Spices and herbs will stay fresher longer, much longer in the Savior. The beauty of the Savior is that it removes a large amount of air and your spices will last a very long time. It will
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It seems as if most of your commentors are concerned about price. And most seem unmoved by your reiteration of the device's advantages. A little advice: this product, indeed, any product, is worth what buyers are willing and able to pay. Your price is clearly too high for the market, no matter how good the storage and marinating
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@Fxl thanks for sharing.
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Respectfully, FXL, unless the price is extremely low, you will always find people concerned about it. Especially for early companies, the price has to be a balance of a reasonable point for the product to be purchased and what it needs to be so that the company can recoup its costs to make it and continue to grow.
Price is one of the biggest challenges for early companies. Our products won't compete with big box competitors on price but will fight tooth and nail in terms of quality. In Savior's case, it will blow them out of the water. It's that quality and the support of a young business as it develops, that you are paying for. Of course, that will always be subjective. -
@Mike Blow them out of the water? HA! I highly doubt that. You would say ANYTHING to justify the ridiculous price of a stupid plastic storage container with a lid that squishes out a little air.
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Hi Sandra, if by 'anything' you mean 'reasonable ways in which Savior can provide immense value for its price' then yes, I'll say anything. Peter emailed me a great comparison, which helped me understand what Savior does. Taking out 30% of air from a container is like going from sea level to 10,000 ft up. That is in no way 'a little air.' That's a big time difference. If you don't feel you can justify the price, I am not going to push you. I completely understand this will be out of the price range of some, but innovation like this is something you will have to pay for. I will say that Savior can pay for itself very quickly and belittling the product won't change that.
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These look great and I'm seriously thinking of purchasing multiple. My question is this...do they retain the smell of what you put in them? Also, is the material they are made from erode if you marinate with any acidic?
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@Wendy Earlier, I mentioned the Sauerkraut/Kim-chi tests. We had them out on a counter for weeks at room temperature. There was no smell emitting from the containers. When we opened them...wow was the smell intense. We hand washed the lid, recommended and put the container in the dishwasher. No smell after cleaning. It is made with high-grade BPA plastic and it does not retain odors, once cleaned. Acidic foods and marinate will not harm the unit. Great question!
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Seems like a good product...have a need for them like most everyone else....but the price is way off the charts. Too bad because I will have to pass on them because of the price for just one container.
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Hi Charles, as we've mentioned we understand it won't be in the wheelhouse of everyone, but hopefully with enough support on site, that won't be the case forever.
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@Mike I'm so sorry I can't buy one now. I love this idea and would love one - maybe after I get my income tax refund :) I just checked on Amazon and the price there starts at $89, so the prices here are a GREAT deal! Wishing you, @Peter, all the very best of luck with this wonderful new product. I'll be back!
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Thanks so much for the kind words, Mary, hopefully we'll see you back here soon!
The launch day conversation has ended. Please direct further questions about this Grommet to our Community Experience Team.
tom
Hi Grommet Community! We're excited to share with you our non-electric vacuum sealer containers. What will you be storing in your containers?
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 9:14 AMEveryone is trying to find ways to extend the life and freshness of their food, why do see Savior as the well, savior, of that effort?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 9:16 AMWe looked at all the different types of storage containers and none really extended the life of the food and products to more than a couple of days. We created a way to vacuum out the air in our container that will greatly extend the life of all foods, fruits, herbs, coffee, teas and cheeses. We found that coffee enthusiasts love how the Savior keeps their coffee as fresh as the day it was roasted or ground. We designed the most powerful non-electrical vacuum container. By simply turning the dial on the top of the Savior you will be able to vacuum up to 30% of the air inside the container. This is a huge number in the food industry. To underscore this statement…we were just awarded a US patent for the Savior!
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 9:21 AMWhat was the toughest part about bringing this to life?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 9:22 AMIt’s always hard to create new products with new technology. We created gears that drive a small pump that is in the lid of the Savior. Although it may sound pretty easy to use gears that drive the pump to take out the air. We had to find the right ratio of gears that will give the Savior the maximum vacuum per twist. After much R&D we were able to develop the Savior that is easy to use and extremely functional. Add to that a great design of the container where it is easy to clean and stackable. This is how the Savior works. By turning the dial on top of the Savior you are turning gears and they drive a small pump. Every turn of the dial drives the pump 35 times. You will know when the air is removed by looking at seal/release valve. When the valve is sucked in, there is a strong vacuum. To release the vacuum to access your food, just depress the release valve and that vents the air. It’s that simple!
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 9:23 AMWhy should everyone have Savior in his or her kitchen?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 9:23 AMThe Savior works not only in the kitchen, you can take it anywhere to extend the life of foods. Take it camping, hiking, fishing, anywhere you might want to keep your products safe, dry and isolated from the surroundings. The Savior works perfectly for the kitchen because of it user friendly. You don't really want to find a pump or seal a bag every time you need to store something. And since our product does not use batteries or electricity you can safely store in the refrigerator. Not only does the Savior extend the life of the product, it also seals whatever you store inside it without and smells. Since it creates a vacuum, there are no odors coming from the container when sealed. Another huge advantage of owning a Savior is that it is the perfect product to marinate with. Just add in your marinate to your food and turn the dial on your Savior. The vacuum opens up the
food so your marinate will penetrate deeper and faster to create a delicious rich flavor. 1 hour of marinating in the Savior is compared to 6 hours of marinating in most other methods. A huge savings of time and your foods will have a richer more enjoyable flavor! Plus it comes with a 2 Year Warranty!
Dinah
3/3/2016 10:41 AM@Peter im curious about the seal; if it keeps odors from entering, does it also keep the scent of what's inside from escaping? When camping, bears as well as many other wildlife, have an incredible sense of smell. Has this been tested?
I LOVE this idea. These will replace so many of my old containers in my kitchen.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 10:50 AM@Dinah Yes it been tested. Once it seal no air exchange would happened until you open it up again.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 10:55 AM@Peter One more note on odors. We did a test with sauerkraut and kimchi. 3 weeks in the Savior at room temperature. No odors emitting! Thank goodness.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 9:23 AMWhat sets Savior apart from many of the other vacuum-sealed containers?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 9:25 AMWe made the Savior to be different from others product. No other product has the power of the Savior. Your products will still go bad in just a few days whit what is on the market now. Look at the waste we all create. The average family in the US, wastes over $2,000.00 of food per year! We are not just another vacuum container. The Savior greatly extends the life of your foods up to 8 times longer than our competition. It is the next generation of food storage. That is why we received our patent in just over a year. It has a beautiful look, it’s easy to operate, stackable, made with BPSA free plastic and you can use it anywhere.
Susan
3/3/2016 10:42 AM@Peter
I'm sorry. But I can get three of these that r similar but do the same thing for the price you have for one
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 10:44 AM@Susan
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 10:46 AM@Peter Hi Susan, can you tell me what brand that is? We have done extensive research and there is no product on the market that comes close to what the Savior does. We would be very interested. Thanks, Pete
alastair
3/3/2016 2:58 PM@Peter
As with many of the products that Grommet offers,the price is way above what one would expect to pay. Susan is correct, there are many other vacuum storage containers at a much better price.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 3:00 PMThat last sentence is correct, Alastair, but none will offer the advantages of Savior. It's in a league of its own, hence the price.
alastair
3/3/2016 9:49 PM@Mike
They may seem better to you but, to those of us who are considering buying them, they are an unknown. There are no independent reviews to substantiate ANY of your claims.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/4/2016 9:45 AMThen by all means, wait for the reviews to start rolling in on site.
Jerri
3/3/2016 10:53 AMI would love to get some of these but would like to know the demensions of them. They are expensive and I would be disappointed it if they did not fit in my pantry.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 10:55 AMHi Jerri, you can find the dimensions by clicking on the photos beneath the video. You can also see the capacity on the photo before clicking through.
Eric
3/3/2016 10:53 AMSome foods, like coffee, are sensitive to light and would be better preserved in an opaque container. Have you considered making containers that aren't transparent?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:01 AM@Eric Good question Eric. We did testing with coffee roasters and that was brought up. For now, it is the clear. we/they recommend storing in a cabinet. Maybe next year.
Another issue was brought up with the roasters...when they are freshly roasted the beans emit CO2. That's why bags have vents. With the Savior, if the pressure inside exceeds the pressure outside it will self vent. If you see the vacuum button not sunk in, it means the pressure was greater and self released. Just turn the dial a few times and it will create a vacuum. The roasters tell us their this is the Best storage device for their beans.
arthur
3/3/2016 11:10 AMWould this work for sliced bread?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:15 AM@arthur Hi Arthur, yes and it would keep it as fresh as the day you brought if home from the store or made it. No mold due to the strong vacuum.
L
3/3/2016 11:11 AMWhat is the material used for the base, lid and mechanical parts?
Are they FDA approved for food storage?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:17 AM@L we use BPA free plastic. This is not made in China. Designed and made in Taiwan. A HUGE difference in quality control.
Jennifer
3/3/2016 11:12 AMHello! Your product looks very similar to the Oxo vacuum seal containers and those are much, much cheaper. What is it about your product that justifies the over $55 price bump per container? Or am I misreading and you get a set of 1.5 containers for $69.95?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:21 AM@Jennifer OXO takes out about 1% of the air. The Savior removes 30%. In food storage that is Huge. We received a patent for this product in 12 months. That proves this is not just another storage device. If you recall the pump? You connect a small bicycle style pump to the top of the container and pumped is 20-30 times to remove air? Well that only took out about 4%. This is a totally new way to store just about anything.
darell
3/3/2016 11:22 AM@Jennifer The might look similar, but the Ox containers do not create a vacuum as far as I know. The button on the Oxo lid merely expands the lid's seal and makes them mostly air tight... but again with no vacuum. The containers here create a vacuum that greatly extends the freshness of almost any food.
Jules – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 4:43 PM@darell You are correct Darell. I have owned a lot of the OXO containers and like them very much--I appreciate their tight seal, but they do not provide a vacuum style air removal. So whatever air is in the OXO container is going to stay in there. I suspect a lot of people commenting today are confused on this point. It kind of FEELS like a vacuum seal when you engage the OXO lid.
Jane
3/3/2016 11:25 AMI would buy these in a minute if they werent so expensive. Would make great gifts. Sorry, just cant afford them.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:30 AM@Jane Hi Jane, you get what you pay for. The technology that went into the Savior was in the millions. It has a 2 year warranty and will pay for itself in no time. If you like to cook, try marinating with the Savior. Due to the vacuum, it will penetrate deeper into the food and save you hours of waiting. 1 Hour in the savior is compared to 6 hours of regular marinating.
darell
3/3/2016 11:26 AMHi Peter - can we assume that the lids for the two sizes are identical? And thus the pump is identical? So if the same amount of product is stored in the two different containers, then a better vacuum will be created in the smaller container? Also... is the pump action limited to three twists? Or can more pumping be achieved by continuing to twist the knob? (it would be pretty slick to have a vacuum gage on these!)
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:35 AM@darell Yes they are. When you compare 1.5 qt to 2.5 qt sizes, there is really not much of a difference in the vacuum pressure. You will always have product inside the unit and the volume is very similar. On sealing the device/vacuuming, you turn the dial on the top of the unit until you feel it getting harder to turn. You will also see the vacuum/release valve suck in to show you have a strong seal. You can turn it to the right or left, doesn't matter it you are a righty or a lefty.
Bethany
3/3/2016 11:27 AMThis is a great idea. I was really excited about it, until I saw the price tag. WAY WAY out of my price range. I understand that it is revolutionary, and the high quality standards. But there's NO WAY I can afford one or two of these, much less the 6-8 I would like to purchase to keep lots of different staples fresh. Good luck to you.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 11:57 AMWe get it, Bethany, and as I said below, with enough support on site they can bring the price to a level in the wheelhouse of more people. And not to sound like a broken record, but the cost now will result in big time savings down the road.
Debra
3/3/2016 3:28 PMI think the product is genius! And I would love to have several of them in my kitchen. I dont think I would be happy with just one. But I will have to jump on the price complaint wagon and say that they are way too expensive right now. People have to learn the game of production. Usually, new products are more expensive when they first hit the market--that is to make up for a lot of overhead that went into production as well as to make a huge profit off the top. But everything has a depreciation time period. Do like I do and wait for a while and let the price drop or a good discount is offered. I dont pay full price for hardly anything. Now for you rich folk, go ahead and splurge and let us penny pinchers know how it work. I'll be back when these puppies go on sale (smile).
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 3:54 PMThat is a diligent approach, Debra, thanks for the kind words.
Christine
3/3/2016 11:28 AMHonestly, they are way too expensive. I thought maybe it was for a set for 4, but for 1. - sorry.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 11:35 AMHi Christine, we understand it won't be in the budget of everyone and we don't want you breaking the bank. The innovation behind Savior in the amount of air removed from the container and the thousands of dollars you can save from food waste in the long run will certainly create value for anyone who purchases. So while it may seem like a lot now, your bank account will be thanking you long-term.
alastair
3/3/2016 3:03 PM@Mike
Grommet needs to put more thought into how they price new products. I would have thought that getting the product into the consumers hands would be the main objective, then, if the product is any good, and sales take off, increase the price to be in line with comparative products.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 3:12 PMHi Alastair, we do not price products. We sell them at the price Makers set that strikes the balance of accessible to a good portion of the market wanting to purchase them and a level that will allow the Maker to continue to grow. Our number one objective is helping Makers succeed. Gouging prices to compete with other sites does not accomplish that objective. As has been mentioned on here somewhere, being an early adopter of an innovative product from a new, small-scale Maker is going to come at a price. That price may not be worth it everyone and that's ok, many see the value and the rest eventually will.
Angela
3/3/2016 11:31 AMGood Morning. I am interested in this product, but would like to know if it is BPA free. I bake and would love to have this in my kitchen. Thank you!
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 11:35 AMIt sure is, Angela! Your kitchen will thank you.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:37 AM@Angela Yes it is BPA free :)
Ron
3/3/2016 11:31 AMBRING THE COST DOWN AND YOU VE GOT MANY NEW CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:37 AM@Ron We hear you. New technology is not cheap. This unit will pay for itself in no time. Store your high end meats, cheeses, herbs, truffles, coffee, teas, Take it with you outdoors, marinate with it.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 11:39 AMHi Ron, with enough support on site they can hopefully get to that point. In the meantime, you can know thousands of dollars can be saved in preventing food waste which will more than make up for the present cost.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 11:40 AM@Ron yes it is. New technology is expensive. The Savior will pay for itself in no time. This wasn't designed to keep a bologna sandwich fresh for a few days.
Andrew
3/3/2016 12:56 PM@Peter @Ron Or...be one of the new customers and they'll bring the cost down. The early adopters always pay a higher price, but they get the benefit of a longer time enjoying the product. You can wait for the price to come down, but if the product doesn't survive because of a dearth of early adopters, then you'll have missed out on having an awesome product.
Are these expensive? Yes, in general terms, but not in absolute terms, when you factor in the cost of wasted food that will be saved. (For example, just two weeks ago I had to throw away an entire plastic "sealed" container of brown sugar because it turned into a solid.)
Will I buy a set of 4 of these? Probably not, at least not at the outset. But will I buy at least one of these, and try it out? For sure. And if it's all it's made out to be, I'll be back buying more.
So Ron, if you don't become an early adopter but you do see these at a much lower price in the future...you'll have me (and other EAs) to thank! :-)
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 1:48 PMWell said, Andrew. Thanks for the comment!
Philip
3/3/2016 8:48 PM@Mike
Philip
3/3/2016 8:54 PM@Philip
what Andrew said this AM in defense of your pricing is all well and good. The fact remains that, while you seem to have have a novel and effective new design, your product appears to be a relatively inexpensive set of plastic thermo-molded parts. Honestly, I don't see how you can justify having the early adopters pay such a grossly inflated price price such as you are asking, simply to accelerate recouping your start-up costs. Can you justify the exorbitant pricing or can I arrange some bridge financing for you?
Mike – Grommet Team
3/4/2016 9:54 AMHi Philip, its justified by having a product that sets itself miles apart from the competition. If it's a price you are not comfortable paying, we are not trying to push you. We are simply telling you the story of a game changing kitchen item.
James
3/3/2016 11:51 AMNot sure what the "medicinal herb" community is paying for storage options (BTW - a very off-putting marketing hook) but for normal people I could replace all my staples every 6 months for 4 years for around 70 dollars. Love the idea and the engineering elegance but should have had a better market analysis (or maybe was over-engineering that resulted in excess costs). I am an early adopter and follower of the Grommet, but 70 dollars is more than double what I think people would be inclined to pay. Good luck to you and I hope you recoup your investment before your patents are violated by your friends across the Strait...
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:00 PM@James Worldwide patents are on this product. We are well prepared for any knockoff's.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 12:01 PMHi James, thanks for the comment. That community is looking for an ultra effective solution for maintaining the product driving a multi-billion dollar industry, which is what Savior provides. Like I said above, we understand this won't be in the budget for everyone. The price is a reflection of the efficacy that can't be found in other food storage products. As Peter mentioned, Savior removes 30% of air from containers as opposed to 4%. You're also looking at huge savings down the line as you keep food fresher and waste to a minimum.
Mary
3/3/2016 11:58 AMSo disappointed by the price. There are so many great items on the Grommet site, but most are way beyond many people's means. These are great, but would have to save up to purchase.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 12:03 PMAnd that is totally ok, Mary. What we try to do with all products on The Grommet is support the Maker by offering their products at their actual price, not a gutted version you will find on other sites. This ensures we are truly helping them grow their business.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:04 PM@Mary There are so many uses for the Savior. Not just storage. One of our videos shows marshmallows expanding. Try marinating with it. It marinates deeper into the foods due to the vacuum and expands the meats, vegetables, fish and poultry to allow the marinate to penetrate deeper for a richer flavor. Also cuts the time down dramatically to marinate.
Amy
3/3/2016 12:02 PMCan this go in the freezer to avoid freezer burn and freezer taste?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:09 PM@Amy We recommend the refrigerator for the Savior.
zach
3/3/2016 12:08 PMAre these made in China, Brazil, Taiwan, or somewhere else? Makes a huge difference to me just as I see a large leap in quality if it is made away from China.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:11 PM@zach Made in Taiwan Zach. BPA free. Huge difference in Taiwan vs China on quality, reliability and manufacturing.
zach
3/3/2016 12:20 PM@Peter Thank you I will be purchasing a few shortly :).
Belinda
3/3/2016 12:13 PMWould this be good for lettuce in the fridge? If so, how many extra days would it store?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:19 PM@Belinda yes, lettuce will keep fresh for weeks. We did a test with bananas. One was in a bowl, another in a burp like lid container and the Savior. The banana in the bowl began to get brown spots in 3-4 days. The one in the burp-container, 5-6 days. The one in the Savior was well over 2 weeks before browning started.
Theresa
3/3/2016 12:14 PMThis sounds great! No loud machine to suck the air out. And the ability to seal foods while traveling is awesome. Win win, as long as it's not made in China. Sorry don't trust that market.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:16 PM@Theresa You get it Theresa! No we do not manufacture in China. Taiwan and their Quality Control is stringent and we use BPA free components.
Theresa
3/3/2016 12:16 PMYeah! Not made in China.
Belinda
3/3/2016 12:22 PMHow hard is it to turn the knob? Would this be a challenge to seniors? Does it get harder with each turn?
Belinda
3/3/2016 12:25 PM@Belinda Also is there a risk of over tightening and breaking it?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:26 PM@Belinda not hard at all. as you turn the knob, the suction/release valve button will get sucked in, showing you have a seal. Also the knob gets harder to turn which also lets you know the seal is strong. My dad is 83 and uses it daily for his coffee and my mom uses one for marinating and storing left-overs.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:30 PM@Peter No for over tightening. The knob will get harder and harder to turn until you cannot turn it anymore. As I said for seniors...after you turn it a few times it starts to get harder to turn. You have made a super strong seal. We have a 2 year warranty on this product.
Barbara
3/3/2016 12:40 PMHi, I am wondering if the twist top will drop down so they are stackable.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 12:43 PM@Barbara they were designed so you can stack them on top of each other. Great question.
Lisa
3/3/2016 12:56 PMWay too expensive!
Nathan
3/3/2016 1:21 PM@Lisa Please offer glass containers. I won't store food in plastic. I do own EVAKs and prefer them for that reason, but they are small due to their sliding tops which in most instances remove comparable amounts of air. I hope you partner to create a twist-top vacuum in addition to their slide-top vacuum.
Nathan
3/3/2016 1:22 PM@Nathan My apologies; "Reply to this Conversation" was unclear as to its scope, for me. I intended to address the maker.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 1:31 PM@Nathan the container you mentioned takes out 1-2% of the air. We had to use a high grade BPA plastic due to the amount of air we take out of the container. The plunger type systems use glass due to their inability to vacuum large amounts of air.
Nathan
3/3/2016 8:51 PM@Peter As great as your 30% figure is, in a mostly empty container it's a wash or in the EVAK's favor, in my eyes, for contents amenable to high density. Your product would be great for bulkier items, though, were it possible to fabricate from non-toxic materials. Perhaps you can offer some kind of insert.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/4/2016 9:58 AMHi Nathan, I'll defer to Peter on this, but I don't believe the size of the items in Savior will impact its efficacy.
Debra
3/3/2016 1:07 PMI realize you are just getting started, but have you considered offering a "set" for a slight discount? This is a great product, you should pursue the "bear can" angle too! (maybe an inner locking mechanism that a bear couldn't overcome.)
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 1:44 PM@Debra not sure what a Bear Can angle is. If you are referring to bear proof, then I would say that once you seal the Savior by turning the knob, the vacuum it creates makes it virtually impossible to take the lid off. If the bear can depress the release valve with its paw, I would be shocked to hear that they could do it. The release valve is recessed on the top of the container.
David
3/3/2016 1:07 PMIs there a volume discount? Looking for 75 to 100
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 1:09 PM@David David that needs to be addressed by the Gommet.
Annette
3/3/2016 1:26 PMWondering how these would work with jars of spices? Jars of spices solidify in south Florida. I've tried different options without success. I've asked others and they recommend putting them in the refrigerator. Spices like onion salt, garlic turn rock hard. Cinnamon is no problem.
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 1:38 PM@Annette great question. We heard the same comments from all over the world. In Hawaii for example, if you leave salt out on the counter, you will have liquid salt before you know it. Spices and herbs will stay fresher longer, much longer in the Savior. The beauty of the Savior is that it removes a large amount of air and your spices will last a very long time. It will
Stay fresh initial it's used up.
Fxl
3/3/2016 1:28 PMIt seems as if most of your commentors are concerned about price. And most seem unmoved by your reiteration of the device's advantages. A little advice: this product, indeed, any product, is worth what buyers are willing and able to pay. Your price is clearly too high for the market, no matter how good the storage and marinating
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 1:38 PM@Fxl thanks for sharing.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 1:46 PMRespectfully, FXL, unless the price is extremely low, you will always find people concerned about it. Especially for early companies, the price has to be a balance of a reasonable point for the product to be purchased and what it needs to be so that the company can recoup its costs to make it and continue to grow.
Price is one of the biggest challenges for early companies. Our products won't compete with big box competitors on price but will fight tooth and nail in terms of quality. In Savior's case, it will blow them out of the water. It's that quality and the support of a young business as it develops, that you are paying for. Of course, that will always be subjective.
Sandra
3/3/2016 2:02 PM@Mike Blow them out of the water? HA! I highly doubt that. You would say ANYTHING to justify the ridiculous price of a stupid plastic storage container with a lid that squishes out a little air.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 2:13 PMHi Sandra, if by 'anything' you mean 'reasonable ways in which Savior can provide immense value for its price' then yes, I'll say anything. Peter emailed me a great comparison, which helped me understand what Savior does. Taking out 30% of air from a container is like going from sea level to 10,000 ft up. That is in no way 'a little air.' That's a big time difference. If you don't feel you can justify the price, I am not going to push you. I completely understand this will be out of the price range of some, but innovation like this is something you will have to pay for. I will say that Savior can pay for itself very quickly and belittling the product won't change that.
Wendy
3/3/2016 2:36 PMThese look great and I'm seriously thinking of purchasing multiple. My question is this...do they retain the smell of what you put in them? Also, is the material they are made from erode if you marinate with any acidic?
tom – Special Guest
3/3/2016 3:00 PM@Wendy Earlier, I mentioned the Sauerkraut/Kim-chi tests. We had them out on a counter for weeks at room temperature. There was no smell emitting from the containers. When we opened them...wow was the smell intense. We hand washed the lid, recommended and put the container in the dishwasher. No smell after cleaning. It is made with high-grade BPA plastic and it does not retain odors, once cleaned. Acidic foods and marinate will not harm the unit. Great question!
Charles
3/3/2016 5:47 PMSeems like a good product...have a need for them like most everyone else....but the price is way off the charts. Too bad because I will have to pass on them because of the price for just one container.
Mike – Grommet Team
3/3/2016 6:15 PMHi Charles, as we've mentioned we understand it won't be in the wheelhouse of everyone, but hopefully with enough support on site, that won't be the case forever.
Mary
3/3/2016 8:42 PM@Mike I'm so sorry I can't buy one now. I love this idea and would love one - maybe after I get my income tax refund :) I just checked on Amazon and the price there starts at $89, so the prices here are a GREAT deal! Wishing you, @Peter, all the very best of luck with this wonderful new product. I'll be back!
Mike – Grommet Team
3/4/2016 10:00 AMThanks so much for the kind words, Mary, hopefully we'll see you back here soon!