Bison Built

When you think of bison, you probably picture large, furry animals roaming America’s plains. What you might not know is that bison down is soft, warm, and wicks moisture, too. What better way to use this wonder fiber than in thick, cushy socks that are American from materials to mission? The Ultimate American Socks are plush, warm, and even microbial—meaning you can wear a pair a few times before washing. Padded, reinforced toes and heels add to their durability. Every step of making these ultra-American socks takes place in the U.S., starting with bison ranched in North Dakota. From there, the yarn is spun in Massachusetts and knitted in Iowa. The packaging is made in Pennsylvania. United by Blue is so committed to our country that these socks even benefit American conservation. For every pair sold, they remove one pound of litter from our waterways. Every time you pull on these cozy socks, take pride in preserving American manufacturing as well as our shining lakes and streams.

United By Blue

Ultimate American Sock

Bison Built

When you think of bison, you probably picture large, furry animals roaming America’s plains. What you might not know is that bison down is soft, warm, and wicks moisture, too. What better way to use this wonder fiber than in thick, cushy socks that are American from materials to mission? The Ultimate American Socks are plush, warm, and even microbial—meaning you can wear a pair a few times before washing. Padded, reinforced toes and heels add to their durability. Every step of making these ultra-American socks takes place in the U.S., starting with bison ranched in North Dakota. From there, the yarn is spun in Massachusetts and knitted in Iowa. The packaging is made in Pennsylvania. United by Blue is so committed to our country that these socks even benefit American conservation. For every pair sold, they remove one pound of litter from our waterways. Every time you pull on these cozy socks, take pride in preserving American manufacturing as well as our shining lakes and streams.
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Grommet Launch Conversation

Grommet Launch Conversation

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia

    Hello everyone! I'm proud to introduce United by Blue to The Grommet. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    1/29/2016 5:35 PM

    These socks are partially made in my hometown of Uxbridge, MA (Go Spartans!) what made you look there and the other places in the US where these are made?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:18 AM

    @Mike Hi Mike! When we decided to make the UAS, we wanted to create a product that is not only durable and comfortable, but we wanted to have a product that tells a story. The Ultimate American sock is just that, a sock that is made from bison fiber, an animal that is unique to the US. We wanted to keep the production of the socks within the US as well! So we chose spinners and knitters throughout the country that would be able to produce a high quality and unique product!

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 10:28 AM

    I love the look, the packaging and especially the story. Well done. Do they come in women's too or are the considered 'unisex'?

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 10:29 AM

    @Brenda Also, I'd love a Bison scarf. Maybe next launch?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:38 AM

    @Brenda Hi Brenda! The socks are considered to be unisex, a large fits women's shoe sizes 10-13. I really like the idea of a bison scarf, that is definitely something we will look in to in the future!

  • Teressa
    Teressa
    2/1/2016 11:16 AM

    @Cecilia

    I only see the large listed. Are they available in a small, too?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 11:23 AM

    Hi Teressa, not at the moment, but if anything changes, we will be sure to let you know!

  • Sue
    Sue
    2/1/2016 4:35 PM

    @Mike Please let me know as well. I have several sisters and nieces who would love these, but not many women have size 10 (or larger) feet.

  • Ed
    Ed
    2/1/2016 10:33 AM

    Do the socks come in mens and womens sizes?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:39 AM

    @Ed Hi Ed! The socks are considered to be unisex, a large fits women's shoe sizes 10-13!

  • Carlyn
    Carlyn
    2/1/2016 10:51 AM

    @Cecilia There are no sizes listed.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:02 AM

    @Carlyn Hi Carlyn, I am so sorry about that! It looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment.

  • Carlyn
    Carlyn
    2/1/2016 12:29 PM

    @Cecilia when do you think there will be more sizes?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:38 PM

    I don't have a guess right now, Carlyn, but you will receive an update email as soon as there are more sizes!

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 5:49 PM

    @Mike hi, I don't mean this to sound mean-spirited, but it seems rather odd to choose to launch a product with such a limited stock! I too would've picked up a few pairs in smaller sizes- seems short sighted to launch any clothing item in just size Large, unless it is a sale to get rid of old merchandise... Really too bad :(

  • Pamela
    Pamela
    2/1/2016 10:45 AM

    Hi Cecilia. These look really great, and I'd like to order a pair, but I didn't see any place to specify size when I order. Could you look into that?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:03 AM

    @Pamela Hi Pamela, I'm so sorry about that, it looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment.

  • Guest
    Guest
    2/1/2016 10:48 AM

    I'd buy these sons in an instant but don't see sizes listed?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:03 AM

    @Guest Hi there! I'm so sorry for the confusion, it looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment!

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    2/1/2016 10:50 AM

    How is the durability compared to quality hiking socks? And how is the warmth if they get wet? And will Grommet carry the small? Right now they only have the large.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:08 AM

    @Nancy Hi Nancy, the UAS are definitely comparable to the quality of hiking socks. With a spandex rib arch support and reinforced heels the socks are comfortable and durable. Unfortunately, at the moment we only have the larges in stock.

  • Nan
    Nan
    2/1/2016 10:56 AM

    I have to ask. How do they get the wool from the bison? Is it killed? I know they (unfortunately) kill bison for meat. So maybe they take it from the dead bison. Anyway, it makes me very sad.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:14 AM

    @Nan Hi Nan, I completely understand. The wool we use is a bi-product of the bison meat industry that would have otherwise been thrown away.

  • Jason
    Jason
    2/1/2016 10:59 AM

    How is the down gathered? Is the bison harmed?

    Jason

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:18 AM

    @Jason Hi Jason, the bison fiber we use for the socks is a bi-product of the bison meat industry that would have other wise been discarded. Of course we completely understand any objections to this process and we would never purposefully harm the bison just to collect the fiber.

  • Mchele
    Mchele
    2/1/2016 11:01 AM

    How do you acquire the bison down? Do you get it from bison that have been killed(culled)?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:23 AM

    @Mchele Hi Mchele, the bison down is a bi-product of the bison meat industry. We totally understand if you have any objections to this but we do utilize a part of the bison that would otherwise be discarded.

  • Juliann
    Juliann
    2/1/2016 11:01 AM

    Where is the merino wool sourced? Is it USA grown also? If not, your company might consider Columbia or Cormo wool grown in Montana and other states. It is comparable to Merino.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:27 AM

    @Juliann Hi Juliann, the merino wool is sourced from the US as well specifically from a mill in North Carolina. :)

  • Thomas
    Thomas
    2/1/2016 11:02 AM

    Looks like an interesting product. I'm just curious, why is it called bison down instead of bison wool?

    I also like your marketing and American made story, but, to be a tad picky, the American Bison is not only found in the USA (but it is still American ... North American). From Wikipedia ... In Canada, the bison is the official animal of the province of Manitoba and appears on the Manitoba flag. It is also used in the official coat of arms of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

    Good luck with your launch.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:44 AM

    @Thomas Hi Thomas, the bison fibers we use are from the underlayer of the bison's fur. Bison, similar to geese and ducks have a softer underlayer of down fur that keeps them warmer in the winter months.

    That's an excellent point you make! We do recognize that Bison are also native to Canada as well, but specifically the Ultimate American in the title refers to the sourcing and manufacturing of the product all of which takes place in the US.

  • Jeanette
    Jeanette
    2/1/2016 11:45 AM

    Cant wait for this sock to come in medium as I am woman's size 9 and am constantly on the look out for a warm sock that could also be used for hiking! love the concept. and love your name as my first daughter has the same!

    Jeanette

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:34 PM

    Thanks so much, Jeanette! We will let you know if new sizes are available!

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:35 PM

    @Jeanette Hi Jeanette! Thank you so much! We will definitely consider making a medium in the future!

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 5:59 PM

    @Cecilia ok so earlier in the thread you said 'it looks like we only have size Large in stock'- multiple times... but here it sounds like you ONLY make size Large at the moment- period. Is this correct? Thank you

  • Margaret
    Margaret
    2/1/2016 11:53 AM

    I will be interested in these when they come in smaller sizes. Both my sister and I are size 7 shoes, I have to wear boys socks.

    I am allergic to wool, so would I be able to wear these?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:37 PM

    @Margaret Hi Margaret, bison fiber is actually hypo-allergenic but unfortunately there is merino wool blended in with the bison down.

  • Joshua
    Joshua
    2/1/2016 11:57 AM

    I like these. Love the idea and the sustainability. Since the Bison are being destroyed anyway, I think it is only responsible to make use of more source material from them, that makes sense.

    I only have one, silly and probably inconsequential point. "Keep your feet warmer than a bison in a snowstorm." One can only assume that bison are also cold in a snowstorm and their tiny feet especially so.

    You might consider, "keep your feet warm with distinctly durable American style" as it may help your branding position. The bison story is great, but the slogan made me think of a bison with cold feet... which was funny but sort of anti-what-you-were-going-for. :-)

    Just a thought. Great product

    Joshua

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:37 PM

    Thanks for the kind words, Joshua! And that is a great thought. I just actually looked up how bison stay warm in the winter. With their thick skin, fur, and layers of muscle and fat, they keep themselves well insulated so you might actually be warmer than one. I do like your line as well though. Thanks for the idea! ;)

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:38 PM

    @Joshua Hi Joshua! Thank you so much for the suggestion, that's actually an excellent point and I'll pass that along to our marketing team!

  • Sharon
    Sharon
    2/1/2016 12:11 PM

    Please tell how the down is harvested, e.g., is it removed as a byproduct from animals that have been slaughtered, or is it "humanely" harvested from live domestic herd bison. Wild western US bison are so dreadfully abused by our federal agencies.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:44 PM

    @Sharon Hi Sharon, the down is harvested as a byproduct from the meat industry. I completely understand that many people have some concerns about this process but we do use the fiber that would have otherwise been thrown out and wasted.

  • George
    George
    2/1/2016 12:21 PM

    Hi Cecilia,

    Just got a pair and if they hold out as well as they look, I'll be back for more!

    Beast,

    George

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:44 PM

    @George Thank you so much George! I hope you enjoy them!

  • Linda
    Linda
    2/1/2016 12:21 PM

    I'll be ready to purchase when you manufacture them in sizes Small & Medium. Scarves sound great and what about mittens/gloves? Obviously there are a lot of us 'cold' people out here!

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:46 PM

    @Linda Hi Linda, those are all excellent suggestions! The socks do come in a small but unfortunately we are sold out at the moment.

  • Lee
    Lee
    2/1/2016 12:26 PM

    I wear my western boots almost exclusively. Are they long in the top so they go over the calf?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:47 PM

    @Lee Hi Lee! Unfortunately the socks come up to the mid-calf.

  • Gary
    Gary
    2/1/2016 12:58 PM

    $38 for a pair of socks is way too much. If it ever gets too cold, I'd wear 2 pair of socks and I'd save about $35.

    Maybe in the future you'll find a way to lower the price.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:50 PM

    With enough support on site, Gary, I'm sure they will. As Jules mentioned below, we are working with Makers just starting out with limited capital so making a product in everyone's financial wheelhouse isn't easy. Again, with support of The Grommet community it becomes easier. One thing Ultimate American has figured out right out of the gate: these socks will keep your feet warm. Bison warm.

  • Susan
    Susan
    2/1/2016 8:35 PM

    @Mike 38$ is not too much. Any sock containing natural fibers are going to cost more. Alpaca socks can easily run $30.

  • vicki
    vicki
    2/1/2016 1:00 PM

    Crazy to launch these socks on Grommet with only a size large.

  • Jules
    Jules – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:37 PM

    @vicki I hear you: Ultimate American does not have size small in inventory and part of the function of a Grommet launch is to get a "read" on what our Makers might be missing and new opportunities. These emerging, independent Makers start with a single product or size quite often, and we help them figure out where to go next with their limited capital.This discussion board has been loud and clear on the interest in smaller sizes. As soon as they are produced, we'll add them to our offering.

    On a separate note, I had my son test these socks because he is new to the construction industry and his feet were freezing at his site (Boston). His exact description of these socks was a text to me the first morning out and it was: "Amazing!"

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 6:41 PM

    @Jules Hi Jules, I love your site & everything you stand for. Thank you for this explanation. But I was a bit perturbed because after spending several minutes reading about, watching video, then reading thru comments (excited to purchase)- only then do I see what came across kind of like 'oops! It looks like we only have Large in stock'. When in reality the product was knowingly launched in just one size. I completely understand after having read your reply here, but I think just as important in the customer service realm is clear communication up front- which manages expectations.

    Personally I think the main gist of your reply should be added to the main product description as a post script. Had I been informed from the start- I probably would have spent just as much time here, but instead of annoyance or frustration I would have been sending a reply on how excited I was when you finally DO offer the smaller sizes. I also think they should get ahead of the HOW the down is procured in the *description- stressing how this product results in less waste of a magnificent creature- more in keeping with Native American values (the original American)- BEFORE it becomes an inevitable question in the readers mind. It guides & takes more control of the narrative in my opinion. And instead of overcoming a potential objection, I think it reduces the chance of it becoming an objection in the 1st place- & makes it a strong selling point instead. Good luck to the makers & I look forward to smaller sizes (& scarves, hand warmers, leg warmers! for next season :)

  • Cameron
    Cameron
    2/1/2016 1:13 PM

    Will you have women's sizes smaller than 10-13?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 1:41 PM

    @Cameron Hi Cameron, we do carry size small unfortunately we are sold out of the smalls. I'm so sorry about that!

  • Russell
    Russell
    2/1/2016 1:38 PM

    in this economy,you've got some nerve asking almost $40 for a pair of socks...

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:56 PM

    Hi Russell, see my answer above to Gary. New Makers with limited budgets often have trouble finding a price point that will please everyone. However, when they get enough support here on site that burden is slowly lifted. We bring these products onto The Grommet because they show innovation and promise and we want to help them reach their potential. It's an uneven playing field in this economy. We're working to level it.

    And these socks aren't run of the mill, but they are milled with bison wool, some of the warmest material you'll find, and every pair is made in America. That is no cheap endeavor, but it sure is an inspiring one.

  • Olinda
    Olinda
    2/1/2016 1:45 PM

    What are the washing instructions?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 2:25 PM

    @Olinda Hi Olinda, excellent question! The socks can be machine washed in warm water inside out and tumble dry on low, although I would recommend hang dry them because the socks may shrink a little in the dryer.

  • Olinda
    Olinda
    2/1/2016 3:00 PM

    @Cecilia sounds like maybe a little dryer time would benefit my size 9 toes.

  • Deborah
    Deborah
    2/1/2016 1:49 PM

    When bison down is collected on a sustainable basis, as in without killing the bison for meat, it is either combed from the animal or is gathered from places where they rub it off in the fields. This process makes it much more expensive and since so many people are eating bison these days, harvesting it from hides makes sense. Bison yarn is extremely warm but very expensive.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:00 PM

    @Deborah Thanks Deborah! Excellent points!

  • Marcia
    Marcia
    2/1/2016 2:33 PM

    Have you heard of the NDSU (North Dakota State University) Bison? I think you should market these in North Dakota next !

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:01 PM

    @Marcia Good idea, Marcia! We actually source our Bison Fiber from North Dakota so that is perfect!

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 3:33 PM

    Just wondering if the fibers of the design are dyed or all natural colors?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:05 PM

    @Brenda Hi Brenda! The bison fibers are not dyed, however the merino wool that is blended in to the bison down is dyed to add the details of the sock.

  • Cindy
    Cindy
    2/1/2016 5:55 PM

    Do these get softer when you wash them? You said they might shrink a little, so I wonder if they would be soft after washing?

The launch day conversation has ended. Please direct further questions about this Grommet to our Community Experience Team.

 

United By Blue

Ultimate American Sock

Bison Built

When you think of bison, you probably picture large, furry animals roaming America’s plains. What you might not know is that bison down is soft, warm, and wicks moisture, too. What better way to use this wonder fiber than in thick, cushy socks that are American from materials to mission?

The Ultimate American Socks are plush,
warm, and even microbial—meaning you can wear a pair a few times before washing. Padded, reinforced toes and heels add to their durability.

Every step of making these ultra-American socks takes place in the U.S., starting with bison ranched in North Dakota. From there, the yarn is spun in Massachusetts and knitted in Iowa. The packaging is made in Pennsylvania.

United by Blue is so committed to our country that these socks even benefit American conservation. For every pair sold, they remove one pound of litter from our waterways.

Every time you pull on these cozy socks, take pride in preserving American manufacturing as well as our shining lakes and streams.
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Grommet Launch Conversation

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia

    Hello everyone! I'm proud to introduce United by Blue to The Grommet. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have!

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    1/29/2016 5:35 PM

    These socks are partially made in my hometown of Uxbridge, MA (Go Spartans!) what made you look there and the other places in the US where these are made?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:18 AM

    @Mike Hi Mike! When we decided to make the UAS, we wanted to create a product that is not only durable and comfortable, but we wanted to have a product that tells a story. The Ultimate American sock is just that, a sock that is made from bison fiber, an animal that is unique to the US. We wanted to keep the production of the socks within the US as well! So we chose spinners and knitters throughout the country that would be able to produce a high quality and unique product!

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 10:28 AM

    I love the look, the packaging and especially the story. Well done. Do they come in women's too or are the considered 'unisex'?

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 10:29 AM

    @Brenda Also, I'd love a Bison scarf. Maybe next launch?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:38 AM

    @Brenda Hi Brenda! The socks are considered to be unisex, a large fits women's shoe sizes 10-13. I really like the idea of a bison scarf, that is definitely something we will look in to in the future!

  • Teressa
    Teressa
    2/1/2016 11:16 AM

    @Cecilia

    I only see the large listed. Are they available in a small, too?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 11:23 AM

    Hi Teressa, not at the moment, but if anything changes, we will be sure to let you know!

  • Sue
    Sue
    2/1/2016 4:35 PM

    @Mike Please let me know as well. I have several sisters and nieces who would love these, but not many women have size 10 (or larger) feet.

  • Ed
    Ed
    2/1/2016 10:33 AM

    Do the socks come in mens and womens sizes?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 10:39 AM

    @Ed Hi Ed! The socks are considered to be unisex, a large fits women's shoe sizes 10-13!

  • Carlyn
    Carlyn
    2/1/2016 10:51 AM

    @Cecilia There are no sizes listed.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:02 AM

    @Carlyn Hi Carlyn, I am so sorry about that! It looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment.

  • Carlyn
    Carlyn
    2/1/2016 12:29 PM

    @Cecilia when do you think there will be more sizes?

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:38 PM

    I don't have a guess right now, Carlyn, but you will receive an update email as soon as there are more sizes!

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 5:49 PM

    @Mike hi, I don't mean this to sound mean-spirited, but it seems rather odd to choose to launch a product with such a limited stock! I too would've picked up a few pairs in smaller sizes- seems short sighted to launch any clothing item in just size Large, unless it is a sale to get rid of old merchandise... Really too bad :(

  • Pamela
    Pamela
    2/1/2016 10:45 AM

    Hi Cecilia. These look really great, and I'd like to order a pair, but I didn't see any place to specify size when I order. Could you look into that?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:03 AM

    @Pamela Hi Pamela, I'm so sorry about that, it looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment.

  • Guest
    Guest
    2/1/2016 10:48 AM

    I'd buy these sons in an instant but don't see sizes listed?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:03 AM

    @Guest Hi there! I'm so sorry for the confusion, it looks like we only have size large in stock at the moment!

  • Nancy
    Nancy
    2/1/2016 10:50 AM

    How is the durability compared to quality hiking socks? And how is the warmth if they get wet? And will Grommet carry the small? Right now they only have the large.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:08 AM

    @Nancy Hi Nancy, the UAS are definitely comparable to the quality of hiking socks. With a spandex rib arch support and reinforced heels the socks are comfortable and durable. Unfortunately, at the moment we only have the larges in stock.

  • Nan
    Nan
    2/1/2016 10:56 AM

    I have to ask. How do they get the wool from the bison? Is it killed? I know they (unfortunately) kill bison for meat. So maybe they take it from the dead bison. Anyway, it makes me very sad.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:14 AM

    @Nan Hi Nan, I completely understand. The wool we use is a bi-product of the bison meat industry that would have otherwise been thrown away.

  • Jason
    Jason
    2/1/2016 10:59 AM

    How is the down gathered? Is the bison harmed?

    Jason

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:18 AM

    @Jason Hi Jason, the bison fiber we use for the socks is a bi-product of the bison meat industry that would have other wise been discarded. Of course we completely understand any objections to this process and we would never purposefully harm the bison just to collect the fiber.

  • Mchele
    Mchele
    2/1/2016 11:01 AM

    How do you acquire the bison down? Do you get it from bison that have been killed(culled)?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:23 AM

    @Mchele Hi Mchele, the bison down is a bi-product of the bison meat industry. We totally understand if you have any objections to this but we do utilize a part of the bison that would otherwise be discarded.

  • Juliann
    Juliann
    2/1/2016 11:01 AM

    Where is the merino wool sourced? Is it USA grown also? If not, your company might consider Columbia or Cormo wool grown in Montana and other states. It is comparable to Merino.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:27 AM

    @Juliann Hi Juliann, the merino wool is sourced from the US as well specifically from a mill in North Carolina. :)

  • Thomas
    Thomas
    2/1/2016 11:02 AM

    Looks like an interesting product. I'm just curious, why is it called bison down instead of bison wool?

    I also like your marketing and American made story, but, to be a tad picky, the American Bison is not only found in the USA (but it is still American ... North American). From Wikipedia ... In Canada, the bison is the official animal of the province of Manitoba and appears on the Manitoba flag. It is also used in the official coat of arms of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

    Good luck with your launch.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 11:44 AM

    @Thomas Hi Thomas, the bison fibers we use are from the underlayer of the bison's fur. Bison, similar to geese and ducks have a softer underlayer of down fur that keeps them warmer in the winter months.

    That's an excellent point you make! We do recognize that Bison are also native to Canada as well, but specifically the Ultimate American in the title refers to the sourcing and manufacturing of the product all of which takes place in the US.

  • Jeanette
    Jeanette
    2/1/2016 11:45 AM

    Cant wait for this sock to come in medium as I am woman's size 9 and am constantly on the look out for a warm sock that could also be used for hiking! love the concept. and love your name as my first daughter has the same!

    Jeanette

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:34 PM

    Thanks so much, Jeanette! We will let you know if new sizes are available!

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:35 PM

    @Jeanette Hi Jeanette! Thank you so much! We will definitely consider making a medium in the future!

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 5:59 PM

    @Cecilia ok so earlier in the thread you said 'it looks like we only have size Large in stock'- multiple times... but here it sounds like you ONLY make size Large at the moment- period. Is this correct? Thank you

  • Margaret
    Margaret
    2/1/2016 11:53 AM

    I will be interested in these when they come in smaller sizes. Both my sister and I are size 7 shoes, I have to wear boys socks.

    I am allergic to wool, so would I be able to wear these?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:37 PM

    @Margaret Hi Margaret, bison fiber is actually hypo-allergenic but unfortunately there is merino wool blended in with the bison down.

  • Joshua
    Joshua
    2/1/2016 11:57 AM

    I like these. Love the idea and the sustainability. Since the Bison are being destroyed anyway, I think it is only responsible to make use of more source material from them, that makes sense.

    I only have one, silly and probably inconsequential point. "Keep your feet warmer than a bison in a snowstorm." One can only assume that bison are also cold in a snowstorm and their tiny feet especially so.

    You might consider, "keep your feet warm with distinctly durable American style" as it may help your branding position. The bison story is great, but the slogan made me think of a bison with cold feet... which was funny but sort of anti-what-you-were-going-for. :-)

    Just a thought. Great product

    Joshua

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 12:37 PM

    Thanks for the kind words, Joshua! And that is a great thought. I just actually looked up how bison stay warm in the winter. With their thick skin, fur, and layers of muscle and fat, they keep themselves well insulated so you might actually be warmer than one. I do like your line as well though. Thanks for the idea! ;)

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:38 PM

    @Joshua Hi Joshua! Thank you so much for the suggestion, that's actually an excellent point and I'll pass that along to our marketing team!

  • Sharon
    Sharon
    2/1/2016 12:11 PM

    Please tell how the down is harvested, e.g., is it removed as a byproduct from animals that have been slaughtered, or is it "humanely" harvested from live domestic herd bison. Wild western US bison are so dreadfully abused by our federal agencies.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:44 PM

    @Sharon Hi Sharon, the down is harvested as a byproduct from the meat industry. I completely understand that many people have some concerns about this process but we do use the fiber that would have otherwise been thrown out and wasted.

  • George
    George
    2/1/2016 12:21 PM

    Hi Cecilia,

    Just got a pair and if they hold out as well as they look, I'll be back for more!

    Beast,

    George

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:44 PM

    @George Thank you so much George! I hope you enjoy them!

  • Linda
    Linda
    2/1/2016 12:21 PM

    I'll be ready to purchase when you manufacture them in sizes Small & Medium. Scarves sound great and what about mittens/gloves? Obviously there are a lot of us 'cold' people out here!

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:46 PM

    @Linda Hi Linda, those are all excellent suggestions! The socks do come in a small but unfortunately we are sold out at the moment.

  • Lee
    Lee
    2/1/2016 12:26 PM

    I wear my western boots almost exclusively. Are they long in the top so they go over the calf?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 12:47 PM

    @Lee Hi Lee! Unfortunately the socks come up to the mid-calf.

  • Gary
    Gary
    2/1/2016 12:58 PM

    $38 for a pair of socks is way too much. If it ever gets too cold, I'd wear 2 pair of socks and I'd save about $35.

    Maybe in the future you'll find a way to lower the price.

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:50 PM

    With enough support on site, Gary, I'm sure they will. As Jules mentioned below, we are working with Makers just starting out with limited capital so making a product in everyone's financial wheelhouse isn't easy. Again, with support of The Grommet community it becomes easier. One thing Ultimate American has figured out right out of the gate: these socks will keep your feet warm. Bison warm.

  • Susan
    Susan
    2/1/2016 8:35 PM

    @Mike 38$ is not too much. Any sock containing natural fibers are going to cost more. Alpaca socks can easily run $30.

  • vicki
    vicki
    2/1/2016 1:00 PM

    Crazy to launch these socks on Grommet with only a size large.

  • Jules
    Jules – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:37 PM

    @vicki I hear you: Ultimate American does not have size small in inventory and part of the function of a Grommet launch is to get a "read" on what our Makers might be missing and new opportunities. These emerging, independent Makers start with a single product or size quite often, and we help them figure out where to go next with their limited capital.This discussion board has been loud and clear on the interest in smaller sizes. As soon as they are produced, we'll add them to our offering.

    On a separate note, I had my son test these socks because he is new to the construction industry and his feet were freezing at his site (Boston). His exact description of these socks was a text to me the first morning out and it was: "Amazing!"

  • Janalea
    Janalea
    2/1/2016 6:41 PM

    @Jules Hi Jules, I love your site & everything you stand for. Thank you for this explanation. But I was a bit perturbed because after spending several minutes reading about, watching video, then reading thru comments (excited to purchase)- only then do I see what came across kind of like 'oops! It looks like we only have Large in stock'. When in reality the product was knowingly launched in just one size. I completely understand after having read your reply here, but I think just as important in the customer service realm is clear communication up front- which manages expectations.

    Personally I think the main gist of your reply should be added to the main product description as a post script. Had I been informed from the start- I probably would have spent just as much time here, but instead of annoyance or frustration I would have been sending a reply on how excited I was when you finally DO offer the smaller sizes. I also think they should get ahead of the HOW the down is procured in the *description- stressing how this product results in less waste of a magnificent creature- more in keeping with Native American values (the original American)- BEFORE it becomes an inevitable question in the readers mind. It guides & takes more control of the narrative in my opinion. And instead of overcoming a potential objection, I think it reduces the chance of it becoming an objection in the 1st place- & makes it a strong selling point instead. Good luck to the makers & I look forward to smaller sizes (& scarves, hand warmers, leg warmers! for next season :)

  • Cameron
    Cameron
    2/1/2016 1:13 PM

    Will you have women's sizes smaller than 10-13?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 1:41 PM

    @Cameron Hi Cameron, we do carry size small unfortunately we are sold out of the smalls. I'm so sorry about that!

  • Russell
    Russell
    2/1/2016 1:38 PM

    in this economy,you've got some nerve asking almost $40 for a pair of socks...

  • Mike
    Mike – Grommet Team
    2/1/2016 1:56 PM

    Hi Russell, see my answer above to Gary. New Makers with limited budgets often have trouble finding a price point that will please everyone. However, when they get enough support here on site that burden is slowly lifted. We bring these products onto The Grommet because they show innovation and promise and we want to help them reach their potential. It's an uneven playing field in this economy. We're working to level it.

    And these socks aren't run of the mill, but they are milled with bison wool, some of the warmest material you'll find, and every pair is made in America. That is no cheap endeavor, but it sure is an inspiring one.

  • Olinda
    Olinda
    2/1/2016 1:45 PM

    What are the washing instructions?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 2:25 PM

    @Olinda Hi Olinda, excellent question! The socks can be machine washed in warm water inside out and tumble dry on low, although I would recommend hang dry them because the socks may shrink a little in the dryer.

  • Olinda
    Olinda
    2/1/2016 3:00 PM

    @Cecilia sounds like maybe a little dryer time would benefit my size 9 toes.

  • Deborah
    Deborah
    2/1/2016 1:49 PM

    When bison down is collected on a sustainable basis, as in without killing the bison for meat, it is either combed from the animal or is gathered from places where they rub it off in the fields. This process makes it much more expensive and since so many people are eating bison these days, harvesting it from hides makes sense. Bison yarn is extremely warm but very expensive.

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:00 PM

    @Deborah Thanks Deborah! Excellent points!

  • Marcia
    Marcia
    2/1/2016 2:33 PM

    Have you heard of the NDSU (North Dakota State University) Bison? I think you should market these in North Dakota next !

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:01 PM

    @Marcia Good idea, Marcia! We actually source our Bison Fiber from North Dakota so that is perfect!

  • Brenda
    Brenda
    2/1/2016 3:33 PM

    Just wondering if the fibers of the design are dyed or all natural colors?

  • Cecilia
    Cecilia – Special Guest
    2/1/2016 4:05 PM

    @Brenda Hi Brenda! The bison fibers are not dyed, however the merino wool that is blended in to the bison down is dyed to add the details of the sock.

  • Cindy
    Cindy
    2/1/2016 5:55 PM

    Do these get softer when you wash them? You said they might shrink a little, so I wonder if they would be soft after washing?

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